I was just reading the post about "Need Help Removing CiD" and I wondered if I am naive about my security. I use only ZoneAlarm pro firewall and run ClamWin (virus detection) VERY occasionally. I'm generally pretty careful about sites I go to, and unfamiliar emails go straight in the bin. Even so, I wouldnt call myself paranoid about the sites I go to, so it makes me wonder what ppl are doing wrong when they get these virii and trojans from hell!! For the record, I ran ClamWin yesterday with nothing detected and I havent had the slightest malware, virus or trojan for at least a couple of years.