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AMD 64 3200+ wont cool down!

Discussion in 'Processors and Motherboards' started by james_k1988, Oct 3, 2005.

  1. james_k1988 Newcomer, in training Posts: 290

    right i installed it Using the mad paste lol its now the way it was. At around 47C an jumpin up as soon as i do sumfin.If i even shake a window aroudn the screen it jumps up to 54C(according to everest neways). Although I found out what was making it loose an fixed that, its now on solid. I dont know if i used enough paste, Theres about the size of a small BB on ther (which is lower than recommended i think, If so only by a bit) ,an i cleaned the Hsf and cpu off before i done it.Got it cleaner than before lol. I'm going to leave it as it is for now, Hopeing that performance compound will kick in. Cause im sick to death trying to fix this thing. Jus put a HSF on tahts ment to drop it by 15C an its not budged. Its actaully risen a fraction. I'll let you all know how it goes after a few days

    Oh and up to now, and for any more that i might need :p Thank you very much everyone for all your help so far. I know its dragged on a bit, but thats just because i'm really wanting this fixed.(And i know its been spelling mistakes galore with me long messages lol)But I've learned quite alot thanks to the information i got here, cheers guys :angel:

    ill report back in a few days once this has settled in :knock:
  2. dmce Newcomer, in training

    Hey mate, how you doing. Searching for an answer to a similar problem myself. Exact same board with a 3000+ Venice cpu. My temp is about 48^oC idle and jumps to 60^oC on a prime95 test. My heatsink fan spins a lot slower than yours. I have tried the 3.50 and 3.80 bios and double checked the cpu temp in everest and still high. So for me its either the heatsink(refitted 3 times using arctic cleanig solution and silver 5 paste) or the board reporting it wrong. It certainly seem warm and the heatsink on full load is particularly warn to touch.

    If i get any further i will post.

    In Paisley myself :)
  3. james_k1988 Newcomer, in training Posts: 290

    lol tahts the exact sam temps im getting now m8. Had to go through hell to get it down to 45 at idle. But now its back to 48 idle. Although my cpu or heatsink isnt warm to touch at all to be honest :confused: But it might just be a mobo failure. Sure seems like a weird coincidence eh :stickout: i even bought a new HSF an its avtaully got worse, with a HSF thats ment to make it 15C lower lol. If it dont improve im gonna put my akasa paste back on an hope it goes back down to 45. Then it can fk'in stay there lol been to worried about this thing. Its actaully been in the back of my head when ive been out an about lol. Think ill get a bigger case,Redo the paste an jus leave the thing. Got some other problem with the com that ill be able to look at now. Although ill keep you updated casue supposidly this paste is ment to get better over 8 days :stickout:
  4. skip69 Newcomer, in training

  5. james_k1988 Newcomer, in training Posts: 290

    Hey m8. Yea i know water coolin systems are probably teh ebst. But unfortinately i dont hav £300 to buy one lol there quite priey. If i could get this down to 35C id be happy. which im sure its at tbh. But ive already said about that lol :p
  6. james_k1988 Newcomer, in training Posts: 290

    Right guys, i'm baccckkk. And more problematic as ever :dead:

    Right its been a while now and still no luck. Its been flying up to 65C lately . Although i think i found the problem!!! Inside the case there aint much room for the HSF as it faces sideways,Right onto my graphics card's backplate. Which has heat going from it, riseing and the fan will be blowing that on the CPU. But its hard to explain so i took pictures for ya :blush: I apologise for the quality, i know its bad but its the best i could get. Heres the first

    http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/518/17ul.jpg

    tahts the basic outlook of the inside of the case. As you can see the gcard isnt far of the HSF. Heres a closer look

    http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/7404/22od.jpg

    Again i know its poor quality but if you can make it out, the silver bit is the backplate for the graphics card. The HSF only points 2 ways on my board, Up or down (currently down.) I tried to aim it up so it could inhale fresh air but no luck, it wont fit because of the PSU. I was thinking though, Would it be worth altering the case, putting the HSF at the bottom So i could aim the fan up?Although that would be a bit of a job, and would want to make sure it would be worth it before i attempted it. Oh and my case fans. I bought 3 incase it would help (fat chance) Here are the positions

    http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/7133/31qk.jpg

    (remembering the side of the case is off at this moment)

    I Drew the fans a bit so they are easier to see. The directions are as follows, the numbers are referring to the ones on the picture

    1) Blowing air out the case
    (was origionally blowing air in but i realised that it wasnt helping much as it seemed to be missing the HSF)

    2)Blowing air Out the case

    3) Blowing air into the case

    (was origionally blowing out but i thought if it was blowing in, may stop the heat being picked up by the HSF off the gcard....it didnt lol)

    Think my plan to put the hsf at the bottom would work? :)
     
  7. peterdiva TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 1,202

    First thing to try is to use a desk fan to blow into the case,at least then it will save you the hassle if there's no drop in temp.
  8. james_k1988 Newcomer, in training Posts: 290

    A good plan m8 but i dont think ill be able to get the fan i have (which aint nethin special lol ) to get sufficent air into that small gap and onto the HSF. But ill give it a go and let ya know :stickout:
  9. james_k1988 Newcomer, in training Posts: 290

    im getting a new bursery in on january. which im going to use to buy this case, it looks liek it would solve all my problems :p

    http://www.arctic-cooling.com/pc_case2.php?idx=4

    Psu's even in a different place so i can aim my fan up. Whaddya think :)
  10. PC_Nerd Newcomer, in training Posts: 95

    i personally think your worrying about nothing, if it exceeds its threshold, then id be worrying.
  11. Wee_Mee Newcomer, in training

    intel for the win !

    In my exp if you want super cool CPUs intel is the chip for you AMD has bad rep for over heating CPUs my P4 3.4 gig processor clocks normal at 31 c's and when running the biggest baddest game it only goes up to 45 top :p

    also james that isnt gonna make alot of dif to ya heat prolem m8 i would forking out 30 pounds or 50 dollers where ever you from and get a top fan with a great fat heat sink i meen people always pay out loads for there cpus mother boards and buy cheap fans and wonder why they get heat problems also a good paste is needed fan and paste should cost more then 40 pounds then ya problems will be sorted case fans are ok but they more for getting fresh air in ya case to stop as much dust getting in there they only drop ya case temp by around 2 c's which isnt gonna do nothing to ya cpu temp and rpms dont meen alot too with fans it more about how good the design of the fan is and if it has a big heat sink or good conductivaty on it so go by user reviews go for a 5 star and dont cheap out on prob the most important part of ya pc : ) happy shopping :haha: :slurp:
  12. PC_Nerd Newcomer, in training Posts: 95

    i think its not a bad reputation, i think its just the way thier made and it dosent really matter that thier a bit warm
  13. Wee_Mee Newcomer, in training

    i did say in my exp as in my views to me they suck so had nothing but problems with em been with intel for 4 years now and super low heat and very good power out put i am a changed man :giddy:
  14. PC_Nerd Newcomer, in training Posts: 95

    Hey, i know its a lot off topic, but to UK keyboards have a pound sign instead of a dollar sign on the '4' key?
  15. Wee_Mee Newcomer, in training

    aye yes they do change ya windows options to usa and it will be a $ in stead : P
  16. Wee_Mee Newcomer, in training

    this thread is geting big no more posts lol
    i meen its starting to look instressting lmao :)
  17. james_k1988 Newcomer, in training Posts: 290

    oh i know its isnt much of a issue. I havnt had any lockups or anything like that. and the cpu hasnt really rose to dodgey temperatures. but i would just prefer it if it ran cooler,for performance purposes (seems to boot up like a shot in mornings when room is cold) I could live with it the way it is now CPU wise. But im sure there is a general heat issue within the case.

    REason being. Except for the cpu (which i think is overheating to much cause of my hsf faceing the wrong way. thatll be fixed if i get this new case though) i have recently noticed my grafix card can fly up as well. Yesterday i was playing Need for speed most wanted demo(amazin game btw) and i got a ATI error message. telling me the card wasnt responding.(x800le HIS card) Once the message went away i wae able to load the game back up and play. Happened later on though, and against with another game. HAvnt had it since then, but when it happened i check the card tempt and it flew up from 40 (which is what its at when its not doing anything) and had crawled up to 60. dont know if this caused the problem but i dont think that its good. I could also feel the case fan that blows out air, getting hotter (blows on my leg). I'm sure teh heat inside the case is getting to much. hence why i went looking for a good cooling case . My fan has a HIS cooler on it as well to keep it super cool (big mother-fu*ker) and its still flying up

    It is in a bit of a bad location i suppose. Its under my desk in the corner. and the desk goes right round the corner. Hard to explain, but its where my computers have always been and ive not had 2 much problems (nothing heat related neways)

    I dont want a daft problem like this damageing my equipment and new parts i put in it. Thats why i though that case suited the part. the PSU is even in a different location so i could aim my fan upwards.

    I know im probably being paranoid cause up until now ive not experianced any problems that would link to that (all windows problems, big surprise... :haha: ) . And im not trying to get all riled up over a bit of heat. jus comparing what i have to what ive seen an it doesnt seem to good. AS you can tell from this 3 page long thread im not to good on heat issues with computers. although im learning thanks to this thread :) .What you guys think of that case though, think it would be worth it? looks liek it would do the job

    p.s. in my opinion, if u ask me AMD outperform intel. In all machines ive seen AMD seems to outdo INTEL,(performance-wise) even although INTEL has higher clock speeds. Dont get me wrong INTEL are very good chips,fast buggers lol, if i was offered one i wouldnt say no. jus a AMD man meself :p
  18. james_k1988 Newcomer, in training Posts: 290

    I know this is a old thread but i resolved the problem an thought id put it up.

    Now ill make clear that AT THE TIME ALL THE BIOS DRIVERS WERE UPTODATE. BUt lately MSI realeased new ones, so i put em on, an now the cpu is reading at 32C :suspiciou so after all that, turned out to be a bios fault lol. Wish i knew that before i bought new heatsink, HSF,Case....

    Thanx for the help though guys, means alot :grinthumb