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AMD admits to struggling with HD 5000 demand

By Justin
Nov 25, 2009
  1. vimes1150

    vimes1150 TS Rookie

    I got a 5750, but I plan upgrading to 5850 mid-next year - hopefully by then the shortages will be solved, and prices lower.
     
  2. OneArmedScissor

    OneArmedScissor TS Rookie Posts: 49

    You ding dongs with your conspiracy theories need to keep up with the news better.

    TSMC has had poor yields with 40nm from the very start, and it never really got better. 40nm GPUs have been used in a handful of cards since about March, and there was never enough supply of a single one, for either company.

    Nvidia has never been able to keep their supply up, either, which is why they don't rely on 40nm for anything but low end/small/simple chips and up to midrange mobile cards, which still aren't really that complex compared to mid to high end desktop cards.

    Look at the GT 240, which only just came out. It's not even as good as a 65nm 8800GT from two years ago. Do you really think they wouldn't be selling a revamped version of the 9800GTX+ if they had that option?
     
  3. JMMD

    JMMD TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,177

    My 8800GTS is still running strong. I haven't had an ATi card for a long time, always gone with Nvidia. This new series is very nice though and could be the one to make me convert over.
     
  4. harby

    harby TS Rookie Posts: 37

    Such a shame really. AMD has (had?) a great chance to flood the market with dx11 cards by the time nV introduces one in 2+ months from now. I hope they solve these wield issues and up the production because they really deserve it imo. If it wasn't for the 4xxx series we'd still be paying 250+ dollars for a mainstream card and 400+ for an enthusiast version instead of todays prices.
     
  5. Basher

    Basher TS Rookie Posts: 54

    I feel really bad for AMD... this was the biggest chance they've had to cash in on their innovation and quick thinking, and now they've potentially lost out on huge profits due to this shortage.
     
  6. manintech

    manintech TS Rookie Posts: 46

    I want to know how much profit they can make on such an expensive card
     
  7. mattfrompa

    mattfrompa TS Maniac Posts: 482   +8

    Agreed, this is a problem a manufacture wants to have, but as you pointed out it is important for AMD to rectify the situation before consumers are off put from making the purchase at all, and inevitably give their business to their rival. Although I don't know if I agree that nVidia will produce an inferior product to combat ATI's offerings.
     
  8. kaonis92

    kaonis92 TS Enthusiast Posts: 117

    Seriously, who would pay for a 5970?? Even if you have a multiscreen configuration this card I just an overkill (it costs more than double the 5870 while offering about 40-45% in performance). I would rather buy a 5870 and in the future I'd consider an upgrade with a second 5870
     
  9. fref

    fref TS Enthusiast Posts: 153

    What I'd really like to see at this point is an article that says "Radeon 5000 series shortage finally over!" I have two of these on order, and I've been waiting for over a month now.
     
  10. buttus

    buttus TS Enthusiast Posts: 187

    Blame TSMC for AMD's difficulty in getting cards out. Frankly I think there is a conspiracy as Nvidia benefits HUGELY from this shortage and they gain valuable time in trying to get a DX11 card out. It's awefully suspicious that during Christmas the biggest consumer purchase time of year, that TSMC should suddenly have chip yield issues when AMD has the overwhelming and commanding lead over Nvidia.
     
  11. kodrutz

    kodrutz TS Enthusiast Posts: 145

    I've been using Radeons for a pretty long time now, starting with a 9200 64MB/128bit, then jumping to a X1950 Pro, and replacing it with a HD 4770 after some time. The funny part is that the system using that card had to face some electric shock and the PSU and HDD are gone, so now I am on the NVIDIA camp, using an old Athlon XP 2000+ with 512MB of memory, 8.4GB Seagate HDD and a GeForce 4 MX440 64MB/64bit, all powered by ZenWalk Linux.

    Well, this may be almost antique hardware now, but it really gets the job done (working on a big online research/data entry/content editing project now on a pretty tight schedule, and can't afford wasting time on setting up all my Windows software again...).
     
     
  12. ken777

    ken777 TS Rookie Posts: 103

    This is sad. The 5800's were released 2 months ago. I just checked newegg and there isn't a single 5850, 5870, or 5970 in stock.
     
  13. claycc

    claycc TS Rookie Posts: 43

    It's too bad ATI is missing out on a huge opportunity to eat away at Nvidia's market share. Nvidia will be releasing their new cards in the coming months which means more competition (and hopefully better prices for us).
     
  14. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,914   +93

    :haha::haha::haha:
     
  15. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,364   +9

    i am building a new i7 system around tax time and im just hoping that ati gets everything straight so i can have my 5850's in crossfire for the best system i would ever own :)
     
  16. Decimae

    Decimae TS Rookie Posts: 79

    It seems like the fermi isn't coming any time soon though.
    I'm not getting a 5xxx because I just(1-2 months ago) bought my 4870 factory OC'd, and DX11 doesn't seem like a great reason to upgrade.
     
  17. Arthurik_jan

    Arthurik_jan TS Member Posts: 45

  18. jerry53

    jerry53 TS Rookie Posts: 27

    cool ati is coming up as a supreme waited a lot oftime to see this hope i can have this baby for my new build
     
  19. lewislau957

    lewislau957 TS Rookie Posts: 23

    It kinda does suck for ATI, that they just can't produce enough cards. But then again, it might be a good thing, since they can keep the prices of their cards high, and their product remains desirable. It's economics, better to limit the supply =).
     
  20. Kcircyrd

    Kcircyrd TS Rookie Posts: 316

    "I prefer Radeaon, their cards tend to be cheaper than those by NVIDIA,"

    Err, isn't that ATI?
     
  21. claycc

    claycc TS Rookie Posts: 43

    I think the lack of demand is hurting more than it is helping. Less people are able to get their hands on ATI cards which means more people will be tempted to wait and see what Nvidia comes out with in 2010.
     
  22. topcoach

    topcoach TS Rookie Posts: 43

    My main reason for upgrading to a 5800 series video card is so I could run 3 monitors off of 1 video card. I don't play games much, but having lots of screen space is important for me. I'm running a 28" screen in the center (1980x1200) and 2 24" screens (one on each side 1980x1200 in portrait mode). Does anyone know if this configuration will work.
     
  23. hathost

    hathost TS Rookie

    With all the supply problems being caused by TSMC I'm betting that AMD can't wait for GF to get their production up and running so the can get more product to market. I picked up a 4890 card months back and am not particularly affected by this problem fortunately and I'll be waiting for the next generation of cards coming out before upgrading anyway. I definately don't see why they didn't keep the bus size 256 though for the 5770. If they release something similar to the card I have now price/preformance wise I would consider it though since the idle and max power as well as temps are much better than the card I currently have. Can't wait to see NVIDIA's product so we can get the prices down as well.
     
  24. Orionlocke

    Orionlocke TS Rookie Posts: 35

    Thats no joke about the shortages. I've been keeping a look out on the online stores for the 5870 and the new 5970 but they have been sold out for weeks. Evey time I look everything is out of stock. Crazy! I've always liked the ATI cards, it's nice to see them compete (and own right now) the top spot for performance with the high end 5000 series cards!
     
  25. Heretic

    Heretic TS Rookie Posts: 37

    Honestly, I think it's good business practice to release things on time. The few that get it on time will take it and review it and more people will be able to decide if they want these or not. As far as the shortages go, this is just a step in the advancement in science and technology. Not everything works out the first time around. They have lots of time to get their process sorted out to prevent future shortages.
     
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