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AMD Athlon 64 3200+ upgrade?

By Dannyk0ed
Dec 13, 2011
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  1. Hey I need some suggestions to upgrade my CPU and GPU, I want to know if this specs can use ATI HD 5450

    Specs
    Amd ATHLON 64 3200+ @2.0Ghz
    GPU Ati Xpress 200 series-Chipset
    2GB ram
    Windows 7 32-bit Ult
    MS-7093 Motherboard
    I have The Emachines T6212

    I want to know if it can run ATI HD 5450 and any CPU upgrades?
     
  2. marinkvasina

    marinkvasina TS Enthusiast Posts: 262   +9

    if ur going for a decent gaming cpu
    intel i5-2500k

    but u should check if the sockets match
     
  3. Dannyk0ed

    Dannyk0ed TS Member Topic Starter Posts: 79

    MS-7093 cant support Intel only AMD, Intel i5 would be good for my Type of gaming,
     
  4. marinkvasina

    marinkvasina TS Enthusiast Posts: 262   +9

    u can't have a type of gaming on an Anthlon cpu
    depending on ur budget, u should upgrade u motherboard too
     
  5. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,305   +52 Staff Member

    Did you even bother to read his post? Why even reply...?

    Anyway, according to this PDF, you can pop a 4000+ or "higher" in it for some marginal improvement. 4000+ is the fastest 0.13 micron CPU you can put in it, so that probably is the max.

    The CPU will need to be socket 939 with a ClawHammer or Newcastle core.

    Keep in mind OEMs like eMachines build their systems with only certain variables in mind. New CPUs, although physically and (technically) electrically compatible, may still not work. I would strongly suggest updating your BIOS first, then upgrading your CPU.

    You can get an Athlon 4000+ (Clawhammer) for $25 on eBay.
     
  6. marinkvasina

    marinkvasina TS Enthusiast Posts: 262   +9

    yes i did, he should change half his system
     
  7. Dannyk0ed

    Dannyk0ed TS Member Topic Starter Posts: 79

    actually this CPU is the best at speed. It works after 8 years, and i can play COD4 with 25-30fps, im looking for a gpu for MS-7093
     
  8. dikbozo

    dikbozo TS Enthusiast Posts: 106

    video portion of the dance card...

    Certainly, though you may want to keep an eye on your PSU. The 5450 is not a big juice sucker but it will increase the power drain on your system and as you have an older box and undoubtedly older PSU this is likely the straw that could break the camel's back. You might just want to get another new one. BTW, if you do decide to spend the extra on a new PSU, you might want to consider getting the faster more capable 5670 or 6670. Either would be better choices. In a similar vein, the 5570 is a better choice.

    http://www.hwcompare.com/190/radeon-hd-5450-vs-radeon-hd-5570/

    As for the CPU element, you are limited to AMD socket 939 CPUs. This page at Gateway is for your motherboard:

    http://support.gateway.com/s/MOTHERBD/MSI/103171/103171sp2.shtml

    It lists in a confused way the range of the 3500+ 3700+ 3800+ units as being compatible. I would take as gospel only the actual NAMED units as really working in this board. The differences between the various units is not all that great.

    The 3500+ has a speed of 2.2 GHz and 512kb of L2. The 3700+ the same speed but with 1MB of L2. The 3800+ ran at 2.4 GHz but had 512kb of L2. For completions sake, the 4000+ ran at the same 2.4 GHz and had 1MB of L2. The 4000+ may well work fine in this board but then again you are on your own here due to the Gateway listing's limitations.

    The performance differences between the CPUs above wouldn't be very much different, probably in the range of 10 to 15%. You would be the judge of the value of this.
     
  9. Dannyk0ed

    Dannyk0ed TS Member Topic Starter Posts: 79

    This is old, i improved my PSU by 250w to 320w
     
  10. polyzp

    polyzp TS Rookie

    Go for Llano, its the cheapest board/cpu combo with a gpu!! i recommend the a6-3650
     
  11. Dannyk0ed

    Dannyk0ed TS Member Topic Starter Posts: 79

    Could i get a dual core Poccesor liek AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+?
     
     
  12. dikbozo

    dikbozo TS Enthusiast Posts: 106

    Your motherboard is Socket 939. You may be able to find a socket 939 Athlon X2 4400+ but your board may not work with it. The following links show 3 different chipsets under the MS-7093 and all offer slightly different compatibility. These links indicate you may well be able to use an appropriate socket 939 Athlon X2 4400+.

    http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-MSI/RS480M2_(MS-7093).html

    http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-MSI/RS482M2-IL__L_(MS-7093).html

    http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-MSI/RX480M2_(MS-7093).html

    You should download and run CPU-Z to help determine which motherboard you have. It is free and will give us the info we need to help you.

    http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
     
  13. Dannyk0ed

    Dannyk0ed TS Member Topic Starter Posts: 79

  14. dikbozo

    dikbozo TS Enthusiast Posts: 106

    I see your BIOS is dated as 02/12/2005.

    The support site has one dated 11/16/2009 even though the internal file is dated 8/31/2005. It strikes me as you might want to consider a BIOS update before buying a newer CPU. The process of doing this is included in the internal read me file. If you have never done this procedure before it can be a bit nerve racking but this file is quite clear and easy to follow.

    The file I am referring to is called:

    BIOS_eMachines_W7093AE7 v4.0B5_A_A.zip

    This should ensure you will be able to run more recent CPUs in your board. Good luck as the site doesn't list specific CPUs. As CPU-upgrade.com lists all three variants as able to use an Athlon X2 4400+ it may well be a reasonable choice.
     
  15. Dannyk0ed

    Dannyk0ed TS Member Topic Starter Posts: 79

    Thank you sir, you helped me alot.
     


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