AMD could announce Radeon RX 7800 and RX 7700 GPUs at Gamescom in August

[DragonSlayer101]

Recap: Nvidia has launched a ton of Ada Lovelace graphics cards over the past year, starting with the top-of-the-line RTX 4090 and RTX 4080, before releasing more affordable options such as the RTX 4060 and RTX 4060 Ti. In contrast, AMD has only launched three RDNA 3 GPUs, including the mainstream Radeon RX 7600 and the high-end RX 7900 XT and 7900 XTX.

That, however, is likely to change soon, as Team Red is reportedly all set to launch new graphics cards in the coming months to plug the massive gap in its current portfolio. According to popular YouTube channel Moore's Law Is Dead (MLID), AMD plans to announce at least two new RDNA 3 GPUs at Gamescom in late August before launching them in September. Overall, there could be up to four new SKUs announced as part of the RX 7800 series and RX 7700 series, all based on Navi 32.

The video also reveals some of the key details about the rumored cards. According to the insider sources quoted by the channel, the RX 7800 will sport 60 compute units (CU) and 16GB of 19.5Gb/s GDDR6 memory. It is also said to have a 260W TDP, substantially lower than the 315W for the 7900 XT. As for the RX 7700, it is said to come with 54 or 48 compute units alongside 12GB of 19.5Gb/s VRAM and a 245W TDP.

Alongside the two aforementioned cards, AMD is supposedly planning on launching an RX 7900 to plug the gap between the 7900 XT and the 7800. This particular GPU is said to ship with 70 compute units and 16GB of memory, and will reportedly be harvested from the RX 7900 XT/XTX dies that had poor yields. According to initial reports, the vanilla RX 7900 might get a 'quiet launch' and in limited quantity so as not to disrupt the other offerings in the company's portfolio.

Meanwhile, even though the MLID video didn't reveal anything about the performance of the RX 7800 and RX 7700, we already have an inkling about what to expect from them, thanks to leaked benchmark results. The leaks come from prolific tipster @All_The_Watts, and show the RX 7800 scoring 18,197 points in 3DMark Time Spy, while the RX 7700 managed to notch up 15,465. Of course, synthetic benchmark results are not always indicative of real-life performance, so take them with a grain of salt for now.

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[emmzo]

Mid range is going to be a tough sell for both AMD and Nvidia and that`s where most sales are. You reap what you sow and we`re finally having a big laugh. Second hand 3080s are 450$/euros and going lower, because there`s tones of them, thanks to the mining craze. Meanwhile a 4070, which is more or less equivalent, is 600$. SH is a lottery, true, but assuming you can thoroughly test it, I would prefer that than spending 150$ more for ...DLSS 3? I reckon 7800 will be on par with 4070 and in the best AMD recent tradition will be 600$ or more, because... 16GB VRAM instead of Nvidia`s 12GB. 7700 will challenge 4060 ti, but let`s be honest, there`s not much there to challenge, probably another DoA. I wish them all a disastrous year, filled with anger and despair, just like, you know, we experienced.

 

[Braustard]

A bit too late in my case, I expected their release as late as May but AMD offered nothing, so I decided to grab a RTX 4070 for 570 dlls, it's doing a great job but I'm not totally conviced it's going to age well with only 12 Gb.

 

[llamapanda]

Doesn't seem to be much of a gap between the 7700 and 7800 there except for the VRAM size. Overclocking might see that gap shrink significantly and potentially leave 7800s on the shelf. Perchance to become bargains later, yay.

Pricing will make or break these new offerings thanks to the 6xxx range already being more than a match for nVidia for most users at mainstream price levels.

Will having 4Gb more than a 4070 be enough for a 7800(/XT) to edge ahead if the overall performance is similar? The inevitable $600 tag leaves a heck of a gap to try and fill with intermediate SKUs above the vanilla 7600 at $~240. AMD could clean up the mainstream market if they chose to now that nVidia have already played their hand and come up lacking.

 

[Nobina]

A bit too late in my case, I expected their release as late as May but AMD offered nothing, so I decided to grab a RTX 4070 for 570 dlls, it's doing a great job but I'm not totally conviced it's going to age well with only 12 Gb.

12GB is fine, maybe in a couple of years some titles might struggle at 4K but there's DLSS/FSR to help out.

 

[lripplinger]

I upgraded to an RX 6750XT, so I will be curious to see how these new cards perform.

 

[yRaz]

12GB is fine, maybe in a couple of years some titles might struggle at 4K but there's DLSS/FSR to help out.

I think 12GB will be fine until the next generation of consoles comes out. Even then you probably have 2 years after their release before you have anything to really worry about

 

[J95qRP7]

12GB is fine, maybe in a couple of years some titles might struggle at 4K but there's DLSS/FSR to help out.

While logically it makes sense, that using DLSS/FSR/XeSS might lower VRAM usage, as it is rendering the game at a lower resolution, I haven't seen that tested by any of the major reviewers. I did a quick search, but couldn't come up with anything, but that might just be my search skills. Do you have a link to an article or video that goes through this testing? I thought the biggest usage of VRAM were textures and upscaling wouldn't change those.

 

[Mr Majestyk]

I have no expectation of great performance, so it will be price that determines how well these are received. With Nvidia setting the bar so low with the 4050 aka as 4060, AMD could make a killing if they price the 7700 right and it's at 6800 levels in raster and demonstrably faster than the 4060 Ti. Make it $450 and it will sell like hotcakes. As for the 7800 it will be a 4070 competitor so needs to be $549 max, even with 16GB. AMD has to offer substantially better value and/or performance to entice rusted on Nv*****s. If they get this wrong like they did with the 7900 series pricing, then this entire generation will have been a complete farce.

 

[human7]

Is it just me or is it taking a really long time for this generation to be released? Maybe the poor reception is causing these companies to drag it out?

 

[Nobina]

While logically it makes sense, that using DLSS/FSR/XeSS might lower VRAM usage, as it is rendering the game at a lower resolution, I haven't seen that tested by any of the major reviewers. I did a quick search, but couldn't come up with anything, but that might just be my search skills. Do you have a link to an article or video that goes through this testing? I thought the biggest usage of VRAM were textures and upscaling wouldn't change those.

I'm pretty sure at 4K when I enable FSR on FH5 my VRAM usage goes down. I don't know about any articles from the top of my head and I'm too lazy to search for them. You can maybe find it in one of recent reviews of 8GB cards.

 

[bluetooth fairy]

Mid range is going to be a tough sell for both AMD and Nvidia and that`s where most sales are. You reap what you sow and we`re finally having a big laugh. Second hand 3080s are 450$/euros and going lower, because there`s tones of them, thanks to the mining craze. Meanwhile a 4070, which is more or less equivalent, is 600$. SH is a lottery, true, but assuming you can thoroughly test it, I would prefer that than spending 150$ more for ...DLSS 3? I reckon 7800 will be on par with 4070 and in the best AMD recent tradition will be 600$ or more, because... 16GB VRAM instead of Nvidia`s 12GB. 7700 will challenge 4060 ti, but let`s be honest, there`s not much there to challenge, probably another DoA. I wish them all a disastrous year, filled with anger and despair, just like, you know, we experienced.

6800XT is already on par with 4070. 7800 should be quicker, somewhere in between 6900XT and 6950XT.

4060TI is already challenged by 6700XT/6750XT. 7700 again should be quicker and land in the 6800/6800XT territory.

Otherwise there will be no generational improvement. DOA as it happened to 4060TI.

 

[bluetooth fairy]

Is it just me or is it taking a really long time for this generation to be released? Maybe the poor reception is causing these companies to drag it out?

Huge stock after crypto boom and overselling. AMD is getting rid of it more slowly.

 

[Mr Majestyk]

Is it just me or is it taking a really long time for this generation to be released? Maybe the poor reception is causing these companies to drag it out?

Two reasons for this: 1 Huge existing stocks of last gen cards 2 Poor sales across the board in the GPU market as buyers fight back.

There has been little incentive to release mid-tier cards but that's AMD's and Nvidia's fault for making overpriced cr@p.

 

[emmzo]

6800XT is already on par with 4070. 7800 should be quicker, somewhere in between 6900XT and 6950XT.

4060TI is already challenged by 6700XT/6750XT. 7700 again should be quicker and land in the 6800/6800XT territory.

Otherwise there will be no generational improvement. DOA as it happened to 4060TI.

Considering 7900XT is actually worse in some titles than 6900XT or 6950XT and bounces depending on the title and resolution from 5 to 20 fps better and also looking at 7600XT vs 6600XT, same minimal improvement, it is safe to say 7800XT will be slightly better than 6800XT, but cost north or 600$, because this is AMD`s new slogan "We follow Nvidia!". As I said a 3080RTX is 450$ SH and looking at the market I see a similar and even lower price for a 6800XT.

 

[bluetooth fairy]

Considering 7900XT is actually worse in some titles than 6900XT or 6950XT and bounces depending on the title and resolution from 5 to 20 fps better and also looking at 7600XT vs 6600XT, same minimal improvement, it is safe to say 7800XT will be slightly better than 6800XT, but cost north or 600$, because this is AMD`s new slogan "We follow Nvidia!". As I said a 3080RTX is 450$ SH and looking at the market I see a similar and even lower price for a 6800XT.

Considering 7900XT is actually worse in some titles than 6900XT or 6950XT and bounces depending on the title and resolution from 5 to 20 fps better and also looking at 7600XT vs 6600XT, same minimal improvement, it is safe to say 7800XT will be slightly better than 6800XT, but cost north or 600$, because this is AMD`s new slogan "We follow Nvidia!". As I said a 3080RTX is 450$ SH and looking at the market I see a similar and even lower price for a 6800XT.

There's no 7600XT. Only 7600 to replace 6600. 7600XT isn't on the horizon.
There's leaked benchmark data in the content piece we're commenting. It points 7700 between 6800/6800XT and 7800 above 6900XT. If you missed it, np.

 

[emmzo]

There's no 7600XT. Only 7600 to replace 6600. 7600XT isn't on the horizon.
There's leaked benchmark data in the content piece we're commenting. It points 7700 between 6800/6800XT and 7800 above 6900XT. If you missed it, np.

Yep, my bad with 7600, but the argument still stands. The current gen improvement vs last gen is much less than what we were used to, so, no incentive to buy. 7800 above 6900XT seems far fetched. Other leaks suggest it will match a 4070 or be just slightly better. I guess we'll wait and see.