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Very disappointing.
AMD FX-8150, FX Series Review - Bulldozer makes debut
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I would have liked to have seen some sort of SQL and Java benchmarks for those of us that primarily use our computers for developing enterprise software.
red1776
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I will probably start a BD thread, or add to Miz's if he starts one. I will be a few days behind him (thanks Newegg) I will post whatever benches he doesn't or hi res games unless there is a big difference in OC's
Mizzou
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Thought I'd just add them to my original Bulldozer thread to keep everything in one place ... Red, feel free to post there too if you wish.
Just got mine up and running, so far the early results look pretty consistent with Steve's review and others around the internet. Overclocking results so far, 4.2GHz all stock except for multi, 4.5GHz stable with just a minor voltage bump. Have loaded Windows desktop at 4.8GHz but am concentrating on getting 4.5~6GHz stable, looking pretty good.
Right now am trying to resolve throttling issue, processor is toggling between 4.5 to 2.8 on a regular basis, even with power management features disabled. Was going to hold off posting results until (if) this issue can be resolved.
Clock for clock the Phenom II X6 1100T appears to be stronger at this point.
Note:
I'll start posting results in the old Plowing ahead with Bulldozer thread soon.
dividebyzero
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O.J. got spurned then.
Seems JF has taken his ball and gone home*.
Half the AMD fanboys must have Stockholm Syndrome. Guy does a spin/hatchet job on the tech community...then goes mondo tard by announcing it was only one site** (XtremeSystems) where he made the claims... and getting the defenders of the green faith rallying around him
**Must have forgotten about his account at OCN...and Aces Hardware...and Anandtech...oops.
Not too surprised John's getting out of the forum posting/viral marketing gig...could be quite uncomfortable having to reply to people who have his quotes such as the one above as their sig....he seems to be a (un)popular source of quotations - not to mention a focal point for a LOT of angry people who got suckered into buying 990FX boards by the AMD hype machine.
* I linked to the Scali site rather than Anand as it seemed fitting. Scali was amongst the first people to question JF (and AMD in general) regarding AMD's performance claims.
dividebyzero
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That is one hell of a depressing result. Man I wish I had bought a P67 board instead of an AM3+
Either this is going to rub salt into the wound, or give you an excuse to ditch the AM3+...
Ivy Bridge - 77 watt TDP
Ivy Bridge- drop in upgrade for P67 as well as Z68...given that P67 board prices have cratered since the arrival of Z68, I'd venture that IB could well be a very easy system to ease into.
**NOTE**: The drop in compatibility is dependant upon the board having a UEFI interface that supports ME8L firmware revision, so I would think that motherboard vendors will be highlighting this feature very quickly if their boards already support the feature.
[ source: VR-Zone]
The conclusin of the review is biased. In a number of benchmarks showed the bulldozer is much better than last phenom II and very close to the top of the intel. How can they call it disappointing? From 2 years back the difference to the top of the intel was nearly 40%, now down to about 10%.
And why not the i7-580 included in the review? I think that's very suspicious.
And why not the i7-580 included in the review? I think that's very suspicious.
dividebyzero
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You find it very suspicious that a CPU that doesn't exist isn't included in a review ?
Well done for an auspicious first post! Here's your prize.
"that's very suspicious" and probably a little bit bias as well.
dividebyzero
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Just an update on the post earlier in the thread that DM7 touched on.
If you're running a BD system and you're getting a 101 or 124 stop error while playing Gaming Evolved titles (Shogun2 as DM7 linked, Dues Ex:HR and possibly DoW II amongst others):
Keep a weather eye out for BIOS updates for your board...seems there is some microcode fix in the works ( most likely involving raising voltage by the sounds of it).
Source: Sweclockers ("Blowing up GTX 590's and BSoD-ing Bulldozer since forever")
Hardware France are supposedly keeping tabs on the situation, and Steam Forums might shed some light for non-French speakers.
If you're running a BD system and you're getting a 101 or 124 stop error while playing Gaming Evolved titles (Shogun2 as DM7 linked, Dues Ex:HR and possibly DoW II amongst others):
Keep a weather eye out for BIOS updates for your board...seems there is some microcode fix in the works ( most likely involving raising voltage by the sounds of it).
Source: Sweclockers ("Blowing up GTX 590's and BSoD-ing Bulldozer since forever")
Hardware France are supposedly keeping tabs on the situation, and Steam Forums might shed some light for non-French speakers.
Burty117
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dividebyzero said:
That is one hell of a depressing result. Man I wish I had bought a P67 board instead of an AM3+
Either this is going to rub salt into the wound, or give you an excuse to ditch the AM3+...
Ivy Bridge - 77 watt TDP
Ivy Bridge- drop in upgrade for P67 as well as Z68...given that P67 board prices have cratered since the arrival of Z68, I'd venture that IB could well be a very easy system to ease into.
**NOTE**: The drop in compatibility is dependant upon the board having a UEFI interface that supports ME8L firmware revision, so I would think that motherboard vendors will be highlighting this feature very quickly if their boards already support the feature.
[ source: VR-Zone]
To be honest I agree with you here, I've already got a seller on alot of the stuff in my PC which I should get by the end of November.
I was thinking going x79 next and be done with it, hopefully should last 3 years+
dividebyzero
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I was kind of thinking along the same lines. My Q9400/P45 rig is getting a little long in the tooth so it is down between P67/Z68 and a 2600K with upgrade to 3600K in a few months (Z77 boards don't look to have any more functionality than Z68), or go with X79 - a bit overkill, but the extra lanes and PCI-E 3.0 will allow me to get some true benchmarks done, as the P67/Z68/Z77's are still going to be resource constrained (shared PCI-E bandwidth with I/O )
If Ivy Bridge-E looks like a drop-in upgrade for Sandy Bridge-E then I'd definitely go X79. My present X58 rig has been a great performer - it started out with a C0 step i7 920, quickly moved to a 950, and I'll likely snap up a cheapish 980/990/Xeon hexcore once SB-E is released - I'm hoping to get around 5 years use out of the platform.
A selection of X79 boards for you to have a gander at:
[Asus X79 Deluxe], [MSI X79A-GD65], [EVGA X79 Classy],[ASRock X79 Extreme7]
(I should have grabbed a copy of the video featuring the Asus X79 Sabertooth and Rampage IV Extreme before it was taken down)
If Ivy Bridge-E looks like a drop-in upgrade for Sandy Bridge-E then I'd definitely go X79. My present X58 rig has been a great performer - it started out with a C0 step i7 920, quickly moved to a 950, and I'll likely snap up a cheapish 980/990/Xeon hexcore once SB-E is released - I'm hoping to get around 5 years use out of the platform.
A selection of X79 boards for you to have a gander at:
[Asus X79 Deluxe], [MSI X79A-GD65], [EVGA X79 Classy],[ASRock X79 Extreme7]
(I should have grabbed a copy of the video featuring the Asus X79 Sabertooth and Rampage IV Extreme before it was taken down)
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well it's a stink day in the yellow snow when an 8 core CPU can't beat the snot out of a 4 core
I was looking forward to going upto the 8150 but I think I'll just stick with my old x4 940
I was looking forward to going upto the 8150 but I think I'll just stick with my old x4 940
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Actually this doesn't help Intel consumers much. With Bulldozer's mediocre performance, Intel has no real reason to drop prices on any of their cpu's, save the 1st gen I7 series. Intel is pretty much in competition with itself.
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Sorry, that last post was directed at post #16.
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Hi all,
Anyone of the above posts, has an 8150 proc. installed and running? Or don´t, and are just loking for benches? And we all know that those benchmarks are not optimized to work with Fx proc. neither is W7. What i don´t understand is such a bad will to AMD, without the pratical evidence of having it installed and experiment it at an real life scenario.
To me, it will be my next upgrade (Fx-8150 at stock speed/Sabertooth/Corsair 16 G ram @ 1866/GTX 560 Ti). Changing from Core2Duo E8400 and Intel!
Cheers.
Anyone of the above posts, has an 8150 proc. installed and running? Or don´t, and are just loking for benches? And we all know that those benchmarks are not optimized to work with Fx proc. neither is W7. What i don´t understand is such a bad will to AMD, without the pratical evidence of having it installed and experiment it at an real life scenario.
To me, it will be my next upgrade (Fx-8150 at stock speed/Sabertooth/Corsair 16 G ram @ 1866/GTX 560 Ti). Changing from Core2Duo E8400 and Intel!
Cheers.
dividebyzero
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If I were you I'd spend some time looking into component compatibility
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I agree! I hope AMD would catch up and be able to produce high valued products...
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there are more resistors... maybe it is partly the cause of the increase in power usage... wouldn't it produce more heat also?
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I personally have used both an Intel i7 third generation, and an AMD Bulldozer FX-8150 and their performance to me it the same... When I first got my AMD I was disappointed in the quality and speed but upon inspection in my BIOS menu I was running 6 Cores not 8 Cores... so I changed it to 8 Cores and with a few other tweaks it runs the same as my Intel i7 Computer.
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