AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition issues

[red1776]

Here's a question that just popped into my mind, so forgive me for it, and begging your pardon in advance. But, how exactly do you measure CPU temperature while the machine is booting? I ask this because the monitoring software
doesn't load until after the OS does.

I think he said that the case alarm was going off,and he had the shutdown temp set at 70c,that would be triggered by the bios....i think thats what he meant.

 

[bedouinrising]

ok, i unloaded the entire tube of thermal paste and it seems the problem has been solved lmfao. While windows was loading, the case alarm was going off, which was triggered by the bios. Turns out the stiock pre-applied thermal paste is useless. I'm not having the problem anymore

 

[fimbles]

What are your temps now?

 

[red1776]

ok, i unloaded the entire tube of thermal paste and it seems the problem has been solved lmfao.

I hope you didn't unload the entire tube on one application! LOL

 

[Ritwik7]

The whole tube!!! Then I must have applied too less to the Vendetta!!!

 

[red1776]

The whole tube!!! Then I must have applied too less to the Vendetta!!!

ooohhhh wise guy! knuk knuk knuk :haha:

 

[Ritwik7]

ooohhhh wise guy! knuk knuk knuk :haha:

No seriously. I didn't apply all the paste that came with the Vendetta. Should I have?

 

[red1776]

No seriously. I didn't apply all the paste that came with the Vendetta. Should I have?

no! LOL, a very thin layer, like the instructional you were looking at, the tube you got is enough for like 5 applications.
all the compound is for is to fill in the micro scratches and imperfections in the finish of the cpu heat spreader and the base of the HS
if bedo put an entire tube on, he will likely have a short in his motherboard when it drips down onto the socket or pcb.

 

[bedouinrising]

it was a small tube......

 

[red1776]

it was a small tube......

:haha: LOL Bedo i hope so

 

[klepto12]

the amount of paste should be like paper thin over the cpu and i mean paper thin. to much paste has the opposite effect on the cpu it make it hotter.

 

[red1776]

just to add to Kleptos post, also to much runs the risk of spilling over and shorting out the motherboard

 

[bedouinrising]

its not much guys, trust me. i just think i didnt apply enough before. I checked again a few times and there is defenitly not enough to collect and drip, the tube is tiny lol

 

[red1776]

its not much guys, trust me. i just think i didnt apply enough before. I checked again a few times and there is defenitly not enough to collect and drip, the tube is tiny lol

LOL bedouinrising, not picking on ya, just hate to see your mobo short out

 

[captaincranky]

I guess my question about Vcore fell on deaf ears. I'm off to read some Intel CPUs reviews @ Newegg. It's really weird how the people with "high technical ability" can't get those HSFs attached, but for me with only average tech skills, they pop right on, and with the stock thermal material no less.

 

[red1776]

I guess my question about Vcore fell on deaf ears. I'm off to read some Intel CPUs reviews @ Newegg. It's really weird how the people with "high technical ability" can't get those HSFs attached, but for me with only average tech skills, they pop right on, and with the stock thermal material no less.

Wow that takes me back, that was about a year ago and the big go around with someone you had about the ability to get a ****** heatsink on :haha:

 

[captaincranky]

It didn't actually end with the gentleman's ability to instal a HSF....

Wow that takes me back, that was about a year ago and the big go around with someone you had about the ability to get a ****** heatsink on :haha:

I know exactly who you're talking about.

He was more or less incapable of accepting input. A really severe handicap with respect to any technical endeavour. I forget, what was his screen name? Oh wait, I think it was "a**wipe to the stars".

The fun part came when he thought he would try to get me fired from a volunteer job. Some stupid s*** about how he felt he was entitled to be treated. Much in the same way that if you "live by the sword, you die by the sword", it summarily follows that if you," act like a complete a******, you get treated like a complete a*****".

I felt like Tiger Wood's at tee time.

 

[bedouinrising]

uhh, in case i didnt already say it, the hsf was properly attatched. And look around, others have had the same problem with stock phenom ii thermal paste.

 

[captaincranky]

You have no idea how happy that makes us.

I have this bizarre notion that CPU manufacturers won't sell OEM HSFs with thermal material that would damage their product.

Your experiences up to now seem to contradict popular wisdom. For example, increasing the amount of thermal paste, and having the temps go down.

When last I heard your CPU was running @ 60C during boot. Has that resolved itself?

The thing that confuses me is that I can just pull a stock Intel HSF out of the box, slap it on, then have it work, and with the stock thermal pad, no less.

I guess it's true what they say, "God protects drunks, children, and people with average technical ability"!

 

[bedouinrising]

yeah no more problems during boot- case alarm isnt going off anymore and i've even noticed that the cpu temp has lowered while using windows too, by a few degrees.

 

[red1776]

yes..lmao, thats the one. that was the first time i took note of your posts. i remember you ran verbal and logical rings around him, and he basically got to "im taking my ball and going home" :haha:

@ bedouinrising, yes that stock 'thermal pad" on the stock HS does indeed leave a lot to be desired. AS5 it aint.

 

[bedouinrising]

i'm just glad i didnt have to put out the money for a new HS...

 

[captaincranky]

yeah no more problems during boot- case alarm isnt going off anymore and i've even noticed that the cpu temp has lowered while using windows too, by a few degrees.

At 95 watts TDP, ,this isn't likely to be a really cool running CPU anyway, even at stock clock. I think the Prescott P-4 has about the same design power.

I'm sure you'll take offense at this, but I sort of think that you may not have had the HSF properly attached at first.

Without disputing the absolute worth of the AMD thermal material, it does logically seem it should be good enough to not set off the case alarms.

i'm just glad i didnt have to put out the money for a new HS...

This goes to my original statement that no manufacturer is going to include a HSF with a CPU that is going to harm their product. So, assuming it is not defective, it should cool adequately, at least at stock speed. The computer case is factored into this equation though. Intel has tested cases and and recommends some as "TAC", (thermally advantaged chassis)!

 

[bedouinrising]

you may be right, but i'm having the problem again. i didnt notice, but i had switched my bios alarm to go off at 70 celsius, and then applied the thermal paste. I just now switched it back to 60 celsius and the alarm still goes off during boot. Maybe its a case problem like you suggested?

ps: dont worry, no offense taken!

 

[captaincranky]

Check the Vcore....!