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AMD Radeon HD 7000 series GPUs currently lack DirectX 11.2 support

By Scorpus
Aug 20, 2013
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  1. AMD's graphics cards based on their first-generation Graphics Core Next (GCN) architecture, the Radeon HD 7000 series and the OEM-rebadged HD 8000 series, aren't currently compatible with DirectX 11.2. Speaking at GDC, AMD engineer Laylah Mah revealed that the current...

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  2. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,528   +324

    When you say partially, you mean the GTX 780 won't support 11.1 / 11.2 or they do? I'm confused, how can something "partially" support an API? I wonder why as well, I thought the Titan / 780 were pretty advanced cards?!
     
  3. TekGun

    TekGun TS Enthusiast Posts: 158   +13

    There's quite a bit of difference to the hardware not supporting DX11.2 and the hardware just needing a driver update to support DX11.2, don't you think? I will be amazed if any DX11.2 PC games are released before ATi fix the drivers.
     
  4. Divvet

    Divvet TS Rookie Posts: 57   +19

    Why's this matter if its exclusive to Windows 8.1? That means a whole 3 people can use it.
    <Engage flaming>
     
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  5. Scorpus

    Scorpus TechSpot Staff Topic Starter Posts: 680   +96 Staff Member

    I believe the hardware only supports some functions of the Direct3D 11.1 and 11.2 APIs, so it may get partial support or no support at all in the future
     
  6. misor

    misor TS Maniac Posts: 1,025   +154

    <flaming DISengaged>
    so only my three 'computers' with windows 8 (which will be upgraded to 8.1) can use it? ;)
     
  7. ghasmanjr

    ghasmanjr TS Booster Posts: 363   +86

    I think this sums up Windows 8 very nicely:
    http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18wz9njzeylhvjpg/ku-xlarge.jpg
     
  8. Puiu

    Puiu TS Evangelist Posts: 1,094   +110

    haha the vista and win 8 houses epic
     
  9. Arris

    Arris TS Evangelist Posts: 4,605   +110

    Damn it, I wanted my Windows 8 and 8.1 Preview computers updated :(
     
  10. MrAnderson

    MrAnderson TS Maniac Posts: 488   +10

    I'm annoyed that Microsoft is making 11.2 exclusive to Windows 8. I can understand why XP is stuck at DX9 on the grounds of a new driver system and the implementation of the new Windows UI render pipline... but W8 and 7 must be much similar. They are just trying to get people to move over to Windows 8. I can an cannot blame them for trying...

    But this is still lame. The only thing they are stopping is the developer adoption of what on the surface seems to be a point release, but could be much more positive for the PC gaming market. Perhaps in doing this, they give XBox One a leg up (because AMD has been working close with MS obviously this time around) and give NVidia breathing room to catch up. NVidia, focused on speeding up what developers are doing now, at the expence of implement newer versions of DirectX. From things I've read, it sounds like NVidia is struggling (a little) with a mixed memory or virtualized memory implementation.
     
  11. Ma_ga

    Ma_ga TS Rookie Posts: 39

    I find the title somewhat misleading, anyway

    as an owner of a 7770 I can say: "AMD Radeon HD 7000 series GPUs currently lack games/apps that support DirectX 10+"
     
     
  12. Eddo22

    Eddo22 TS Enthusiast Posts: 160   +6

    Apparently 11.2 is no big deal. - Read the comments at Techpowerup if you want the lowdown.
     
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  13. Halfmad

    Halfmad TS Rookie

    11.2 might not be a big deal but have MS said any future DX updates will be anything but Windows 8.1 exclusives? I'm assuming it's a case of "sorry you don't have the latest OS, you won't have the latest DX". and go take a running jump you XP and 7 users.
     
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  14. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,528   +324

    To be fair developers managed to get quite a lot of use out of DX9, I bet DX11 will be the new 9 this gen and hopefully devs will get quite a lot out of it. I don't think 11.1 or 11.2 will be a developers main focus, especially when you look at the steam hardware survey and realize most people are on Windows 7.
     
  15. Nick D

    Nick D TS Rookie Posts: 19

    It's almost set in stone that 11.2 will be the next 10.0. Making it exclusive to an infamous OS is not effective.
     
  16. JC713

    JC713 TS Evangelist Posts: 7,065   +919

    Battlefield 4 will include DX11.1 support. Hopefully the new drivers will better support it.
     
  17. Get over it. If you still have XP or Vista you are just a hater. If you have Win 7, why do you hate the fact that you did not need to upgrade?
     
  18. Darth Shiv

    Darth Shiv TS Evangelist Posts: 1,177   +176

    Well like web standards, ideally you check for support for the feature rather than checking version numbers of support.

    E.g. "do you support AES instruction sets?" Rather than "are you a GTX 7xx card?"

    That way you aren't guessing or hardcoding instruction support and in the case of GTX cards, they can implement the best bang-for-buck 11.x instructions. Or as per AMD's issue, MS moved the goal posts on some items, so some things in their support may work fine and can be used while others are not supported.

    You'd want to also complement that ideology with corresponding software checks in games. I.e. don't make a game ask "Do you support DX 11.2?". Rather "do you support all these instructions that I need?".
     
  19. Geforcepat

    Geforcepat TS Rookie Posts: 73   +7

    Lol@ techspot putting a open gl pic on a direct x article.
     
  20. GhostRyder

    GhostRyder TS Evangelist Posts: 2,298   +547

    Yeah I agree, this probably won't be a focus for developers since a majority still use windows 7 and since only the Xbox and not ps4 will have it. These limitations just make it a gamble for developers which means they might not be willing to make the jump.
     
  21. Partial support means they don't support all the... parts. There are many features offered by the API and the cards will just support some of them.
     


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