AMD Radeon HD 7950 specs leaked, price still unknown

By Jos
Dec 26, 2011
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  1. Last week, AMD launched the Radeon HD 7970 as the first member of its 'Southern Islands' GPU family based on the 28nm 'Tahiti' core. The new card is expected to…

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  2. in few months nvida will release their new gpus, and they will kick amds ***, like always. amd sucks
  3. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,382   +15

    9 Jan cannot come soon enough. I cant wait to build my first computer in a long time with an Ivy Bridge chip and one of these marvelous new ATI cards based on Graphics Core Next. ATI has been coming out with more power efficient cards than nVidia, have they not? From reading reviews long ago my mind thinks they use less power with almost the same performance to nVidia's counterpart solutions.
  4. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,382   +15

    BTW Guest, AMD are very competitive with nVidia which puts them in a price war with each other, driving costs down for us. So we should be grateful AMD/ATi exist :)
  5. DokkRokken

    DokkRokken Newcomer, in training Posts: 275

    I have a GTX 470 that would beg to differ.
  6. hahahanoobs

    hahahanoobs TechSpot Booster Posts: 941   +94

    This slide is fake as hell. You can't tell?

    This Donanim Haber guy/site needs to be ignored. He/it is only right half (if that) the time. And no, that is not why I think this slide is fake... anyone not legally blind and knows what a real AMD slide looks like, can see it was altered.
  7. hahahanoobs

    hahahanoobs TechSpot Booster Posts: 941   +94

    Look again. The 470 consistently beats the 5850, and the GTX 480 consistently beats the 5870. Why are you comparing a last gen nVIDIA 2nd best GPU in a quote about what nVIDIA has for an answer to AMD's current top GPU (7970)?
  8. hahahanoobs

    hahahanoobs TechSpot Booster Posts: 941   +94

    If competitive means cheaper, sure. Performance? No. How many times has nVIDIA had two GPU's that beat AMD's best?

    ie: GTX 275 and 280 were both better than AMD's best.
    ie GTX 570 and 580 were both better than AMD's best.

    Nuff said.
  9. Steve

    Steve TechSpot Staff Posts: 1,276   +394 Staff Member

    The slide is not fake.

    Also can you re-signup with the name hahahatrolls.
  10. ihaveaname

    ihaveaname TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 127

    Isn't that how the market works? You bring something in, then someone brings in something better, and so on? Your argument can be applied to the gtx 470/480 just as easily; why didn't they make them faster than AMD's upcoming (6900 series) cards? The 7970 was made to be better than nVidia's best at present time. Of course it's not going to be as good as a card that doesn't exist yet.
  11. DokkRokken

    DokkRokken Newcomer, in training Posts: 275

    Oh please. Don't be obtuse. At their debut, the Fermi cards barely outpaced the AMD cards. Ok so they 'beat' the AMD cards in some cases, but merely by a few frames. And then, factor in the enormous amount of heat and noise generated by Fermi's first outing and you had a product that looked archaic in comparison. It was nVidia's 'Bulldozer': a negligable improvement over its predecessor at best.

    I'm not comparing anything. I'm merely refuting some ***** who thinks AMD's GPU's are consistently subpar. History has shown otherwise. Case in point, the 4xx series. Simple! You must have a hard-on for nVidia to clearly misconstrue my simple statement.

    I vote 'hurrhurrhurrderp.'
     
  12. I can’t agree with your statement, AMD has always maintained good price to performance… we can take a look at the last generation of AMD gpu’s like the 6970 and the 6950, while AMD didn’t have a single gpu response for the 580 there wasn’t a need to have one when the 5970 easily dismissed it for similar money. But from a cost and performance perspective AMD is on the money and Nvidia should be worried why? Every generation AMD have increased performance 40-60% if not more from one flagship to another Nvidia can’t say the same. Also people remember that AMD is working with smaller die sizes with efficient architecture. AMD tends to hit the sweet spot, look at the difference between 6970 CF vs 580 SLI… I couldn’t justify buying spending 1k on 580’s when 6970CF gives similar performance for over 200 dollars cheaper. So while the 7970 is king of the hill now, will it be? who knows but I am willing to bet that Nvidia next gen will run hotter and consume more power with little performance enhancements and not only that AMD with 7990 will maintain the fastest video card status for 3 generations….amd isn’t worried about Nvidia it’s the other way around.
  13. veLa

    veLa TechSpot Booster Posts: 487   +75

    Why did you skip the GTX 470 and 580? Was it because their power consumption was out of the roof? AMD and NVIDIA don't really outpace each other. Both provide very good performance if you're willing to spend the money, and AMD is usually $20 cheaper.
  14. the new hd7970, when over-clocked stays with the gtx590 and hd6990 and then even surpasses them in some benchmarks.... NOTHING SHORT OF IMPRESSIVE

    check the bench marks below, you will be blown away

    http://www.guru3d.com/article/radeon-hd-7970-overclock-guide/
  15. BlackIrish

    BlackIrish Newcomer, in training Posts: 84

    According to a few other leaks, the 7950 should cost $449. Seems reasonable too.
  16. The most important thing, is to b always the first company to bring the actually most powerful gpu,and this company is ATI (AMD), sorry nVIDIA, try to gt this on first quarter 2012... nVIDIA always behind ATI... jaja
  17. ---agissi---

    ---agissi--- TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,382   +15

    These cards are pricey, but they always are when they first debut. Im hoping a GCN card can be had for $200-$250. Three hundred is a bit much to be a dropping on a graphics card, lol. Thats a chunk of change for something that loses its value fairly quickly.
  18. shamus087

    shamus087 Newcomer, in training Posts: 27

    Intelligent comment. +1.

    Been saying the same thing about AMD VS Intel. We loss if AMD stops; even if we like Intel better.
     
  19. venomblade

    venomblade Newcomer, in training Posts: 69

    I read somewhere way before this, which had the same specs and said this costs $350.
  20. Cota

    Cota TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 521   +8

    2 mDP ports.... really?
  21. herpaderp

    herpaderp TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 159

    Uhhh...I don't mean to disagree with you but try to keep your facts straight. Fermi was in no way anything like Bulldozer. Sure, it ran hot and loud, but it also grossly outperformed the previous architecture. What, you think a GTX 470 BARELY beats out a GTX 275? lolwut
  22. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,783   +639

    You might remember that Fermi wasn't actually designed for desktop use. Nvidia's desktop part (GT 212) was cancelled for a variety of reasons. The Fermi architecture was originally conceived solely for GPGPU use in the enterprise/HPC sector as Quadro/Tesla SKU's - as evident by the amount of die space set aside for compute functions. The GF 100/110 were also destined for TSMC's aborted 32nm process, and whereas AMD/ATi had a smaller die/smaller power envelope, a better understanding of foundry process, and a great deal of experience with the 40nm node with which to mitigate a backport of a 32nm design to 40nm, Nvidia could not do likewise, due to market strategy and executive intransigence/lack of foresight.

    Nvidia have also been working with a double edged sword - a large monolithic die strategy to fulfil needs of the pro graphics markets that can pull double duty as a gaming GPU. Inevitably there will be design compromises...but if that direction was so wrong, why is it that AMD's new GCN architecture now embodies elements of compute functionality that Nvidia have made virtually standard?

    Now, as for Nvidia's "Bulldozer"....remember that like BD, Fermi is aimed primarily at the server/ws/hpc markets...
    ...You see Bulldozer claiming anything close to that number from Xeon ? (Hint: AMD's present server marketshare is 5.5%. That isn't tipped to rise greatly-if at all- in the face of competition from Intel's Xeon E3, E5 and E7 range of processors
    ...except for
    ...I assume
  23. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] I'm a TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,317   +117

    I'd like to see the possibility of unlocking to a 7970! That'd be interesting.

    If I am reading this thread right, there is an appalling amount of trolling/getting trolled.
  24. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,783   +639

    Would certainly make the 7950 THE value proposition, although I'm guessing that AMD might have learned from the last series, where 6950 sales cannibalized the 6970 market. Judging by the 7970's pricing, it seems as though AMD are looking a little more towards the bottom line this time around.
    Colour me amazed as well. This kind of thing never happens in a graphics launch thread.
  25. Just a little heads up for NVidia fan boys. AMD has had the southern islands GPU family ready to launch for nearly 10 month, and have been waiting for TSMC to finish their 28nm nodes. So by the time NVidia have launched their 600 series AMD will have had over a year to design their 8000 series. NVidia is going to be a whole generation behind.


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