Once again Strawman likes strawman arguments. The corner case of 1080ti at 1080p, although I'm sure is probably not all that common, but is NOT noexistent either. Nevertheless, you probably need to study techspot's very own:
https://www.techspot.com/news/68407...ottlenecking-cpu-gaming-benchmarks-using.html
The similarily priced intel is NOT bottlenecking the GPU video card, despite your best effort to confuse the matter. The goal is to eliminated the GPU bottleneck and see where the CPU bottlenecks the GPU. Ryzen is already shown to bottleneck the GTX1080ti. This fact is indisputable see:
http://www.legitreviews.com/cpu-bot...-on-amd-ryzen-versus-intel-kaby-lake_192585/5
AMD can have a competitive product if they priced it competitively. AMD has done this before back in the days othe AthlonXP(barton, t-bird, thoroughbreds), they can do it now for Ryzen, for Vega, etc. They can win back the goodwill of their customers by being the unrivaled value, but NOT by overpricing Ryzen and Vega.
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BTW because of all this Ryzen hype and because the 1300x got cheap enough with the $30 discount at microcenter so the 1300x hit the $100 price point, and I figured it was worth an experiment. And AMD met the expectation to dissappoint.
Provided this is just one game bench, but this is one game I happen play plenty of. Compared to to my i5-2500K using the same GTX970, we are talking stuff that shouldn't see GPU botttlenecked, yet we see the following:
FINAL FANTASY XIV: Stormblood Benchmark
Tested on: 8/16/2017 11:39:57 PM
Score:
10010
Average Frame Rate: 67.841
Performance: Extremely High
-Easily capable of running the game on the highest settings.
Loading Times by Scene
Scene #1 2.770 sec
Scene #2 3.596 sec
Scene #3 2.954 sec
Scene #4 3.844 sec
Scene #5 7.158 sec
Scene #6 1.710 sec
Total Loading Time 22.034 sec
DAT:s20170816233957.dat
Screen Size: 1920x1080
Screen Mode: Full Screen
DirectX Version: 11
System
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200) (15063.rs2_release.170317-1834)
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz
8175.059MB
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 (VRAM 4058 MB)
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FINAL FANTASY XIV: Stormblood Benchmark
Tested on: 8/16/2017 11:39:52 PM
Score:
9533
Average Frame Rate: 65.725
Performance: Extremely High
-Easily capable of running the game on the highest settings.
Loading Times by Scene
Scene #1 3.663 sec
Scene #2 4.256 sec
Scene #3 3.632 sec
Scene #4 4.780 sec
Scene #5 9.121 sec
Scene #6 2.023 sec
Total Loading Time 27.476 sec
DAT:s20170816233952.dat
Screen Size: 1920x1080
Screen Mode: Full Screen
DirectX Version: 11
Graphics Presets: Maximum
System
Windows 10 Pro 64-bit (6.2, Build 9200) (15063.rs2_release.170317-1834)
AMD Ryzen 3 1300X Quad-Core Processor
8145.195MB
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 (VRAM 4058 MB)
I overclocked the 1300x to 3.9 Ghz, and I get maybee 100 point improvement. So 1300x is going 4-5% worse than my old i5-2500k. I was really hoping that 1300x which replaced the FX-8320 will get the GTX970 crack 10K points, but it still fell short. Once again wishful thinking proven not to work. Why AMD why?
The 1300x is serviceable for what it is, and this along with my old i5-2500k will be machines for friends and guests to use when they visit, and it is place to park to my old GTX970s. But bottom line, how do customers guard against AMD's lower performance, demand AMD sell at lower prices. Right now this means for Ryzen and Vega.