AMD Ryzen 7800X3D vs. 7900X3D vs. 7950X3D: Gaming Benchmark

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So you have one anecdote for something that is clearly a specific use-case… bravo… now provide some evidence that says you should buy a 79503d or 79003d over a 14000 when you want productivity and gaming…

I await your response…

That's how Thread director is supposed to work. And FYI, that applies to EVERY background process. Unless you have that important productivity process running foreground, it goes into Crap core. To put it simple, if you want hybrid CPU to do compute heavy work quickly, you cannot put that compute heavy process on background. That basically means that if there is no more visual input than progress bar, you must keep that progress bar foreground or it will progress much slower. So simple case as compress files. If you want it to finish quickly, better not to do anything else than staring progress bar or it will go to Crap cores.

Care to tell me why that makes any sense? And no, saving power is not answer.

 

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That's how Thread director is supposed to work. And FYI, that applies to EVERY background process. Unless you have that important productivity process running foreground, it goes into Crap core. To put it simple, if you want hybrid CPU to do compute heavy work quickly, you cannot put that compute heavy process on background. That basically means that if there is no more visual input than progress bar, you must keep that progress bar foreground or it will progress much slower. So simple case as compress files. If you want it to finish quickly, better not to do anything else than staring progress bar or it will go to Crap cores.

Care to tell me why that makes any sense? And no, saving power is not answer.

So you have one minor use-case that you feel invalidates everything else... ok then...

 

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So you have one minor use-case that you feel invalidates everything else... ok then...

You define "using productivity software non-foreground" as "minor use-case"? And we are not talking about text editor but something that really stresses CPU. FYI, that kind of software usually runs background.

Now let's see how much time those tests actually take on "best" CPU:

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First take 65 seconds and another 43 seconds.

Intel Core i9-14900K Review - Reaching for the Performance Crown

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24, 88 and 85 seconds.

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41 and 241 seconds.

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143, 21, 84 and 312 seconds.

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www.techpowerup.com

24, 107 and 24 seconds.

Intel Core i9-14900K Review - Reaching for the Performance Crown

Core i9-14900K is Intel's new flagship with clock speeds of up to 6 GHz. It's actually clocked even higher than the 13900KS, thanks to an extra 100 MHz when more than two cores are active. Our review confirms that Raptor Lake Refresh is amazing for both applications and gaming, if you can live...

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20, 50 and 21 seconds

Intel Core i9-14900K Review - Reaching for the Performance Crown

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www.techpowerup.com

14 seconds.

Intel Core i9-14900K Review - Reaching for the Performance Crown

Core i9-14900K is Intel's new flagship with clock speeds of up to 6 GHz. It's actually clocked even higher than the 13900KS, thanks to an extra 100 MHz when more than two cores are active. Our review confirms that Raptor Lake Refresh is amazing for both applications and gaming, if you can live...

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43, 35, 24 and 62 seconds.

There are NO tests that take single digit seconds. I won't wait for double digit seconds for something to get finished if it doesn't require user input (and those don't). Also many CPUs take longer, I just took lowers time and didn't care if it was AMD or Intel. I can claim that majority of users that use those software put it on background until it's finished. Who waits like a four minutes for something to get ready? Just staring at progress bar or some other animation?

And guess what? If they put that software on background Then AMD is much faster.

 

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You define "using productivity software non-foreground" as "minor use-case"? And we are not talking about text editor but something that really stresses CPU. FYI, that kind of software usually runs background.

Now let's see how much time those tests actually take on "best" CPU:

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Core i9-14900K is Intel's new flagship with clock speeds of up to 6 GHz. It's actually clocked even higher than the 13900KS, thanks to an extra 100 MHz when more than two cores are active. Our review confirms that Raptor Lake Refresh is amazing for both applications and gaming, if you can live...

www.techpowerup.com

First take 65 seconds and another 43 seconds.

Intel Core i9-14900K Review - Reaching for the Performance Crown

Core i9-14900K is Intel's new flagship with clock speeds of up to 6 GHz. It's actually clocked even higher than the 13900KS, thanks to an extra 100 MHz when more than two cores are active. Our review confirms that Raptor Lake Refresh is amazing for both applications and gaming, if you can live...

www.techpowerup.com

24, 88 and 85 seconds.

Intel Core i9-14900K Review - Reaching for the Performance Crown

Core i9-14900K is Intel's new flagship with clock speeds of up to 6 GHz. It's actually clocked even higher than the 13900KS, thanks to an extra 100 MHz when more than two cores are active. Our review confirms that Raptor Lake Refresh is amazing for both applications and gaming, if you can live...

www.techpowerup.com

41 and 241 seconds.

Intel Core i9-14900K Review - Reaching for the Performance Crown

Core i9-14900K is Intel's new flagship with clock speeds of up to 6 GHz. It's actually clocked even higher than the 13900KS, thanks to an extra 100 MHz when more than two cores are active. Our review confirms that Raptor Lake Refresh is amazing for both applications and gaming, if you can live...

www.techpowerup.com

143, 21, 84 and 312 seconds.

Intel Core i9-14900K Review - Reaching for the Performance Crown

Core i9-14900K is Intel's new flagship with clock speeds of up to 6 GHz. It's actually clocked even higher than the 13900KS, thanks to an extra 100 MHz when more than two cores are active. Our review confirms that Raptor Lake Refresh is amazing for both applications and gaming, if you can live...

www.techpowerup.com

24, 107 and 24 seconds.

Intel Core i9-14900K Review - Reaching for the Performance Crown

Core i9-14900K is Intel's new flagship with clock speeds of up to 6 GHz. It's actually clocked even higher than the 13900KS, thanks to an extra 100 MHz when more than two cores are active. Our review confirms that Raptor Lake Refresh is amazing for both applications and gaming, if you can live...

www.techpowerup.com

20, 50 and 21 seconds

Intel Core i9-14900K Review - Reaching for the Performance Crown

Core i9-14900K is Intel's new flagship with clock speeds of up to 6 GHz. It's actually clocked even higher than the 13900KS, thanks to an extra 100 MHz when more than two cores are active. Our review confirms that Raptor Lake Refresh is amazing for both applications and gaming, if you can live...

www.techpowerup.com

14 seconds.

Intel Core i9-14900K Review - Reaching for the Performance Crown

Core i9-14900K is Intel's new flagship with clock speeds of up to 6 GHz. It's actually clocked even higher than the 13900KS, thanks to an extra 100 MHz when more than two cores are active. Our review confirms that Raptor Lake Refresh is amazing for both applications and gaming, if you can live...

www.techpowerup.com

43, 35, 24 and 62 seconds.

There are NO tests that take single digit seconds. I won't wait for double digit seconds for something to get finished if it doesn't require user input (and those don't). Also many CPUs take longer, I just took lowers time and didn't care if it was AMD or Intel. I can claim that majority of users that use those software put it on background until it's finished. Who waits like a four minutes for something to get ready? Just staring at progress bar or some other animation?

And guess what? If they put that software on background Then AMD is much faster.

If you bothered reading the links you posted, you'd note that the conclusions still state that Intel is a better CPU for productivity AND gaming if you put both together... Using E-Cores during background processes isn't really a game changer - you can simply choose not to run them in the background!

If you're not present - having them run in the background and take a few extra seconds (barely a difference by the way), why would you care?