The Ryzen 9 7900X is a 12-core, 24-thread Zen 4 processor priced to compete with the Core i9-12900K. With that many cores, is it only a productivity monster or can it also compete with the best in gaming?
The Ryzen 9 7900X is a 12-core, 24-thread Zen 4 processor priced to compete with the Core i9-12900K. With that many cores, is it only a productivity monster or can it also compete with the best in gaming?
Funny how when its the other way around, very few would say the same thing.I've got a feeling that these comparisons are kinda pointless/redundant - wait till the 13900K or whatever they decide to call it.
I agree, the prices are simply too much.IMO, the issue keeping the new generation of AMD CPUs from being more "competitive" is the cost of the motherboard and RAM. The cheapest AM5 mobo listed on pcpartpicker is $260, three around $310, and 7 others $500+.
I understand that, but given how we already know how Intel behaves when they are on top and they still havent lost neither a significant amount money neither market share, I cant forgive them for what they did when they were on top.Also, lets hope the Intel offerings can put serious downward pressure on the AMD prices.
Hasn't amd kept us in the 6core hell for 6-7 years now? Why don't you hate on them as well? LOLFunny how when its the other way around, very few would say the same thing.
Its like everyone already forgot how Intel acts when they are on top and how they kept us in 4 core hell for a whole decade and releasing mediocre CPUs year after year.
In my book, intel needs to lose a lot more money and a lot more market share before I feel sorry for them or defend or root for them in any way, shape or form.
Because is not over a decade yet?Hasn't amd kept us in the 6core hell for 6-7 years now? Why don't you hate on them as well? LOL
Hasn't amd kept us in the 6core hell for 6-7 years now? Why don't you hate on them as well? LOL
Hasn't amd kept us in the 6core hell for 6-7 years now? Why don't you hate on them as well? LOL
That's just...wrong. Im pretty sure Intel offered 6core cpus back from 2014 for cheap. With quad channel support and a bunch of pcie lanes. I remember the 5820k was just 30€ more expensive than the mainstream i7, so what are you....Because is not over a decade yet?
Or because unlike Intel, they offer 8 cores for a bit more money, instead of US1K like what Intel did back then?
And mind you, it was US1K over 10 years ago, so in todays money, is even more...
lol, some people just argue for the sake or arguing. lol
You don't think Intel had higher core parts? LOL.....No. They kept you in 8-core hell for 2 years and 16-core hell for 4 more.
Either way, I cant blame AMD for that, unless they are overcharging everyone for their chipsets.
What difference does it make if it's in the mainstream platform, lol! The 8core 5800x was more expensive than Intel's hedt parts from 2014, so who gives a damn what platform it was? Seriously, I don't get you guys.WTF are you on about? The 1st gen Ryzen had 8 cores on day 1, and later gens gave you 12 and 16 core options on top of that.
Meanwhile, Intel spend 11 years (starting with the Q6600/Q6700 in late 2006, ending with the 8700K in late 2017) with nothing beyond 4 cores in their mainstream platform, and 6 of those 11 years (2600K in 2011 to 8700K in 2017) with only very minor IPC improvements between generations.
Not outside the HEDT space, no they did not.You don't think Intel had higher core parts? LOL.....
Im specifically talking about the 300€ bracket, since that's the one people complaiin about. That was roundup the price of the i7 mainstream like (300-350). In that same price bracket, amd has kept us in 6 cores since forever
What difference does it make if it's in the mainstream platform, lol!
The 8core 5800x was more expensive than Intel's hedt parts from 2014
You wanted a 6core part back in 2014? Intel had one for 350 - 380 euros.
That's cheaper than the actual price of a 5600x, the first 6 months it was hovering around and above 400€, lol..
Yeah, the 3950x and the 5950x (and of course the 7950x) are the most expensive CPUs on a mainstream platform. So what difference does it make?The difference is price, "lol!"
Well, if we wait after Intel we might end up waiting for a long time. Especially last years, Intel launch delays are famous, right on time only on paper.I've got a feeling that these comparisons are kinda pointless/redundant - wait till the 13900K or whatever they decide to call it.
Yeah, the 3950x and the 5950x (and of course the 7950x) are the most expensive CPUs on a mainstream platform. So what difference does it make?
Yeah, the 3950x and the 5950x (and of course the 7950x) are the most expensive CPUs on a mainstream platform. So what difference does it make?
True, in fact AM5 is superior to Intel's actual and next year platform.The difference is that those people who bought a 8700k 6 years ago, can't just drop in a 12900k into their system, like people who bought a Ryzen 7 1800x can drop in a 5800x3d...
Intel has had 4 sockets trying to keep up with AMD. And now that AMD has a new chip set & Socket design.. Intel is going with a new lga1800 Socket in 6 months to compete with AM5 Socket.
You'd be an absolute fool to buy/build a system that uses EOL LGA1700.. when that mobo has no upgrade path, while also knowing AM5 just came out and will offer some 40 future CPUs for that mobo over the next 6 years.
AM5 is superior to intel's LGA1700.
But that wasn't the point. You said the problem with hedt was the cost, when the costs on the mainstream have gone completely bonkers the last few gens. Have you checked mobo prices? Both x570 and x670 are through the roof.First, you don't need to go for the 16-core option, you also have 12-core and 8-core options below that (3900X was around $450, 5900X is $400 now; 2700 was around $250, 3700X was around $300, 5700X is $250 now). Reminder that this discussion is because you said AMD is a "6-core hell."
Second, like I already said, the 3950X and 5950X can go into a $80 B450 board with $60 of DDR4 RAM. That's the difference from HEDT platforms. Even though those chips launched at around $700, a build with them is still cheaper than all but the most bottom of the barrel HEDT builds.
And the difference is, people who bought an 8700k don't need to upgrade, unlike the ones that went for the 1800xThe difference is that those people who bought a 8700k 6 years ago, can't just drop in a 12900k into their system, like people who bought a Ryzen 7 1800x can drop in a 5800x3d...
Intel has had 4 sockets trying to keep up with AMD. And now that AMD has a new chip set & Socket design.. Intel is going with a new lga1800 Socket in 6 months to compete with AM5 Socket.
You'd be an absolute fool to buy/build a system that uses EOL LGA1700.. when that mobo has no upgrade path, while also knowing AM5 just came out and will offer some 40 future CPUs for that mobo over the next 6 years.
AM5 is superior to intel's LGA1700.