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AMD's next-generation graphics cards: here's what we know so far

By Shawn Knight
Feb 9, 2015
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  1. AMD is expected to release a bevy of next generation graphics cards in the first half of 2015 starting with the Radeon R7 360 and 360X next month according to recently published information from The Tech Report (translated from 3DCenter).

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  2. Acespaces

    Acespaces TS Member Posts: 85   +12

    So much power, but so little optimization.
     
  3. veLa

    veLa TS Evangelist Posts: 708   +168

    I guess my next card will be AMD then.
     
  4. Seventh Reign

    Seventh Reign TS Booster Posts: 131   +65

    Allow me to save everyone a little bit of time. Buy an Nvidia.
     
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  5. amstech

    amstech TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 1,457   +606

    Fiji and Bermuda are the only one's that have my interest.
    We'll see how they fair with 4K.
     
  6. BadThad

    BadThad TS Enthusiast Posts: 66   +28

    A die shrink would be nice....keep 'em coming AMD.
     
  7. Evernessince

    Evernessince TS Evangelist Posts: 1,201   +596

    Yes, pay more and get crap drivers and misleading specs. Yay Nvidia!

    Sincerely,
    a 970 owner (supposedly a great budget card)
     
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  8. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,754   +1,107

    The first volley! Let the AMD/Nvidia flame war begin!
     
  9. Alpha Gamer

    Alpha Gamer TS Guru Posts: 330   +93

    Thanks a lot bro, I don't know what I would do without your invaluable help.
     
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  10. bitaljus

    bitaljus TS Rookie

    Well I am waiting for 360x or 370x with new GPU (GCN 2.0) and the new 3D memory. if its just a rebrand nvidia have a nice 960 ;-)
     
  11. LNCPapa

    LNCPapa TS Special Forces Posts: 4,210   +424

    <- Currently have SLI 970s and am very happy with them but very interested in the performance numbers and price of 395X2.
     
  12. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,891   +1,258

    Chickens coming home to roost?
    So it looks like channelling their graphics R&D into console APUs might result in only a single new GPU this time around. All good for the enthusiast grade (still not sure how they intend to market a FirePro branded Fiji with only 4GB), but the status quo down the stack looks a little ominous as far as OEM contracts - especially mobile discrete graphics, where a lack of GPU efficiency is really putting pressure on AMD's market/mind share.
     
  13. darkzelda

    darkzelda TS Addict Posts: 251   +86

    It's a shame I had to buy a new card before time, I have a GTX 970 and I'm not happy at all, I wish I could have wait for this monsters from AMD
     
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  14. NVIDEA GTX 750 TI owner, previously GTX 450, and many AMD Cards before. NEVER AGAIN AMD toss....
     
  15. Afenix

    Afenix TS Member Posts: 55

    I have an MSi 7870 which has worked brilliantly for me and to this day it is able to output at least a stable 30 FPS on modern games with ultra settings on. I am very happy with this card, but now it looks like it will be the time to move on to the new R93 3** series cards!
     
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  16. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 3,156   +1,431

    For me, AMD's Shader Units are just as pointless as the number of cores in their "top-notch" CPU-s.

    Video Card Value = Performance / (i1*Price + i2*Consumption + i3*Noise + i4*Heat + i5*Dimensions + i6 * Software), where: i1 - i6 are subjective importance ratios. On an average, AMD is known only to be doing good on Price, but its value is killed by the rest of the negative criteria.
     
  17. I have xfx 280x and play everything maxed out at high fps. Had it for over a year and only next card I will upgrade to is a 395x2. Anything less wouldn't be worth the money. Im sure that wont be at least till end of this year for 4k
     
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  18. scorpian007

    scorpian007 TS Enthusiast Posts: 52   +18

    And why is that? I've had both over the years and have only had one 6800GT die, other than that my various AMD/nVidia cards have been solid.
     
  19. Evernessince

    Evernessince TS Evangelist Posts: 1,201   +596

    Typically Consumption, Noise, and Heat are all tied together. As consumption increase, so do noise and heat.

    Dimensions is really only an issue for those with small cases. Otherwise, you aren't supposed to shove a beast of a card into a small machine. Nvidia only wins in this area because they just released their next gen cards, which are a bit smaller. Otherwise Nvidia is just as guilty of large cards as AMD.

    Driver wise, AMD beats Nvidia. Nvidia drivers are bare-bones and come with only a fraction of what's available in AMD drivers. Nvidia's drivers are only as good as AMD's in gaming. Otherwise they are pitifully behind.

    I have to contend your last point as well. AMD is the known for value. Just because Nvidia has a bit of a jump on releasing next gen cards doesn't suddenly erase Nvidia's price gouging past. G-Sync? Add $200 to the price of a monitor. AMD's Free-sync? Free. You can expect that anything released by Nvidia is either going to require one of their video cards or a boatload of cash.
     
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  20. coolness33

    coolness33 TS Rookie

    got the same same card waiting for 395x2 also
     
  21. Its going to be 1000 to 1500 when if first arrives. (not that that has stopped me before {2 980 gtx for my system}) Just know that its going to be expensive.
     
  22. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,891   +1,258

    That happened with the introduction of Kepler, which brought a lower power utilization envelope which led to the GTX 670 (and later 760) using a foreshortened PCB. Once the blower addition was removed from the card, you had a pretty decent choice of mITX targeted cards. The 970 is more or less an extension of lower power paradigm. Losing out on efficiency, makes AMD's architecture ill suited for such dimensions - at least at that performance level of graphics.
    More or less. (Playing the pedant here) For reference cards, Nvidia has kept to 10.5" (267mm) for years (since 2006) as were ATI/AMD's. AMD's have been creeping up in size for the last few generations. From 10.6" (270mm) for the 6950/6970, the HD 7970/280X/290/290X have all been 10.83" (275mm).
    As for AIB's, they are only bound by the ATX specification -maximum length of 12.283" (312mm).
    I'd tend to argue that most of the CCC options aren't all that useful -at least I've never found them so (tended to use the basic driver* + RadeonPro / ATI Tray Tools). They give the appearance of full features but don't really deliver that much. Overclocking? What's the CCC OC limit these days? Display tweaking? Most people I know that do so -including myself, set up our own ICC profiles using dedicated software. If you want to switch profiles without delving into the OS, just use a utility like Color Sustainer.
    Seems a bit reductive don't you think. Most people buy/compare based on current pricing. Using your logic, we should avoid Samsung and LG monitors because of their price fixing past, and Nvidia and AMD graphics because of their price fixing past. Price fixing is worse than charging a higher price than their competitor, right?...and that's without even touching upon antitrust and IP theft. At least the consumer has a choice over an individual vendors pricing...not quite as much when the fix is in.
    Most everything, but not everything. As an example, Nvidia developed the MXM (mobile PCI-Express module) and handed the spec and development over to an independent authority. While it is a bummer that Nvidia do tend to charge more for product, it also seems to translate directly into R&D and features that are first to market (G-Sync, adaptive V-sync, GeForce Experience, ShadowPlay etc.). Whether or not the features offset the price you pay is rather dependent upon what individual user values them at - which tends to directly translate into market share.

    * The one thing that would have made me install CCC was provision for game profiles, but that was pitifully late in arriving to Catalyst (intro'd for Forceware in 2004 - albeit fairly buggy at first)
     
  23. thorpj

    thorpj TS Enthusiast Posts: 90   +14

    AMD, you're using a rebrand for the 380 series. I'm sick of your ****.

    my 280x is a 2012 card... not having it happen again.
     
  24. Techspot is place for fanboys....happy waring
     
  25. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,891   +1,258

    I wouldn't worry about it until the specifications are known. At the moment it is part speculation, part guesswork, and part interpretation of anonymous benchmarks.
     

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