AMD's next-generation graphics cards: here's what we know so far
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Hammayon
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What the justification?
The 290X is less than $500 and performs better than the 780 and is up there with the 780 ti
michael ellams
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It sounds like the console wars have moved to video cards now I just think we buy the card we want.I as an older gamer (58) bought a gaming pc because it will be the last one I really will need.Never had a high end rig before and I do love it, it run sli 780tis superclocked and man do I love the frame rates.I say get the card you want it is not a pissing contest as I have always had AMD cards and 1992 my first pc was an AMD rig 386dx66 cpu even have cpus that have got off ebay that are AMDs must admit I do favour the under dog.Reason I got Nvidia was to say I have tried them and so far it has been awesome so hang fighting over GPUs just get what you want and keep gaming.
theBest11778
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"Fiji will consist of 4,096 shader units, 4GB of high-bandwidth memory and a huge 1024-bit path."
Looks like AMD is going straight for the Titan II. Which makes sense because the 980Ti would be based off the same chip. If these specs are accurate, this will be the first true 4K capable GPU on the market.
Looks like AMD is going straight for the Titan II. Which makes sense because the 980Ti would be based off the same chip. If these specs are accurate, this will be the first true 4K capable GPU on the market.
Is your res 800x400?
cliffordcooley
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It is time for Mount Fiji to erupt again? I'm starting to feel heat coming from Fiji.
Alpha Gamer
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Guys, if you don't laugh, you can thumb me down
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Yayyy the codename was "Bermuda"!! My tiny little island in the Atlantic.
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Who are you, Gordie Campbell?
Evernessince
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You make some pretty good points. I would like to discuss your last two paragraphs.
Starting with pricing, pertaining to AMDs and Nvidia's past. Your point definitely rings solid in that we cannot hold Nvidia responsible for it's past problems. Right now though, Nvidia is still charging a premium over AMD cards. In addition to that they try to shoehorn you into Nvidia cards at every opportunity. I really liked the Nvidia parts in the shield tablet but I don't want to be stuck with a Nvidia card just to stream my PC screen. It's the same issue with G-Sync. The only place I can see all that extra money they charge going into is to force people into Nvidia cards. It's been questioned many times that when Nvidia sends a team of engineers to help out a game dev "optimize" the AMD performance seems to be very bad.
I recently got a 970 a few months ago and haven't even been able to use it much. The drivers were just way underwhelming for me. I'd prefer to run as little in the background as possible, so it irks me when so many features require additional software. I did have some expectations that were crushed as well. I was expecting a large performance upgrade over my 7970 but it turned out to only be few frames at best. Even worse, games that touted PhysX lagged insanely with it on. I think to my self "I guess these features really are just fanboy fodder when it comes down to it".
Personally I'll buy whatever better but my whole experience with Nvidia has been very underwhelming. I don't see a reason to pay more for the same or less so my next card will be an AMD. Any of you guys wanna trade? I'll do a 290x for a 970.
cliffordcooley
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Do you honestly believe AMD will let nVidia be the cheaper product? AMD being the cheaper product is part of AMD's marketing strategy.
dividebyzero
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The opposite is just as true. If you (the company) believe you have the stronger product, it is priced as such. You don't invite the perception that your product is the bargain alternative if you want to retain Top of the Mind awareness with the buying public, and with consumerism, all too often perception is reality.
AMD have had the superior product on many occasions, but their pricing is a reflection that their brand doesn't have the standing with the consumer (and by extension, the OEMs) to make full use of that advantage. This is usually spun as AMD not being as greedy as Nvidia and Intel, but a short glance back to a time where AMD had both performance and enjoyed the end-users Top of the Mind status shows that to be less an accurate. AMD's Opteron and Athlon 64 FX line not only duelled Intel in clockspeed, but pricing also. After seeing people snap up the FX-51 at $733 a pop in September 2003, AMD weren't hesitant about slapping $827 on the FX-55 a month later, until both Intel and AMD were charging roughly the same all through the product stack, with both top end parts costing the best part of $1K each.
cliffordcooley
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That certainly seems to be working for Apple.
NightAntilli
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I've been waiting for the R9 300 series to upgrade my HD 6850. Let's hope the cards live up to expectations. I only hope they will support all DX12 features. GCN 1.1 and 1.2 are claimed to support DX12 but are unable to comply to all features.
Hammayon
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SLI and crossfire tends to have stuttering in some games. Look at reviews for framerate consistency to make sure. Research and find a good configuration so you don't waste your money.
Same card here too by MSI, I have no desire to keep up with the SLI/Crossfiring Titans crowd. Just give me a decent single card. 390x or 395x2 depending on initial benchmarking and power consumption/noise
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Why? There is no point to spend the extra $$$ on Nvidia cards when AMD can get it done for cheaper (though a bit more power usage) - but in a gaming system, who cares?
cliffordcooley
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There is no need in buying hotter appliances to be used in an air-conditioned room. It is a bit counter productive not to try and get cooler products.
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I'm a lazy ****, I hate bs screwing around with updating drivers with my amd card..
You go to there site.. its set out like an armature website designer built it and then you gotta figure out where the hell your card drivers are. And what makes it worse is trying to figure out what driver I need for my apu and my gpu to work together. Last time I tried my crossfire would not work.. Then the control center would never show up.. I reinstall again but I have to uninstall all old stuff manually. then download another type and try my luck again.. ok now the control center comes up but I cant turn on crossfire..
Who ever designed this driver page its a complete nightmare. Millions of dollars and you cant pay a decent web developer to design a proper driver page.
As for the drivers.. Hahaha blue screens black screens.. graphics driver not responding.. Im really tired of it. glitch bug ware when will it stop. I need stability on my pc.
You go to there site.. its set out like an armature website designer built it and then you gotta figure out where the hell your card drivers are. And what makes it worse is trying to figure out what driver I need for my apu and my gpu to work together. Last time I tried my crossfire would not work.. Then the control center would never show up.. I reinstall again but I have to uninstall all old stuff manually. then download another type and try my luck again.. ok now the control center comes up but I cant turn on crossfire..
Who ever designed this driver page its a complete nightmare. Millions of dollars and you cant pay a decent web developer to design a proper driver page.
As for the drivers.. Hahaha blue screens black screens.. graphics driver not responding.. Im really tired of it. glitch bug ware when will it stop. I need stability on my pc.
Evernessince
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Sounds like my experience with Nvidia at one point. You'll quickly find out that neither company is perfect.
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