Apple pressures Microsoft to cease laptop hunter ads?

I own an iPhone and a PC.
They should both stop whining and just focus on making better products.

This is what they're doing, although I must say the top of the line mac pc's have mid grade rebadged hardware. Its decent, but cost 2-3x what it would cost to just build a PC and 1.5-2x more than a similar pc build.

I think your statement should have been "Apple should focus on making better machines for the price point they charge and stop whining about others marketing schemes."

Apart from coding Iphone applications (which you cant even run without paying apple money or jailbreaking the iphone), what is the point of a mac? Having been in possession of one at work for nearly 3 months, I hardly turn it on anymore.

All MS has to do is one mild edit to the commercial, and Apple can't say a thing about it. Just put one of those "to protect the innocent" blur effects over the last 3 digits of the price shown on the Apple products (but leave the 1 in the thousands place), and it becomes obvious that they are over the $1000 limit, but not showing an incorrect price. Problem solved. If they edit the commercials to the dropped prices, all Apple has to do to screw with them again is another small price drop, then start whining.

If it's truly a case of whining over unfair advertising or some other crap, then I say Apple should bring it to the forefront, throw up a huge legal battle, and then Microsoft can just throw up official transcripts showing, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that Apple products are MUCH more expensive. And while they were at it, they could bring up many of the Apple ads and prove how false the information being presented was, probably resulting in a countersuit... It would be the stupidest PR move ever for Apple to push any kind of legal issue.

Especially after the "I'm a mac" ads, Apple can shove it. Their ads were filled with blatant lies and irrelevant commentary. Oh and they didn't even show anything positive about their own products. MS ads showed the macs for like 2 seconds, then focused on what the PCs had. Although I will say that both parties are capable of producing higher quality ads, especially when the products being advertised are so expensive and presumably took a lot of intelligence to make.

The Horns of a Dilemma.....

I think we're pretty much agreed that Apple's "I'm a PC" campaign was closer to being slander than to being truth.

But, M$ is one obnoxious monopoly, and it's frightening to think what software woes could be brought on by a substantial, further shrinking of Apple's market share.

apple os is weak and they need to quit whining. They can dish it out but can't take it.

haha that is exactly what I was thinking.

I say good going microsoft! Give apple a taste of there own medicine.

I hate microsoft... but I hate Apple even more.

If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen (or something like that).

I gotta say though, it was comical how much the "PC" in Apple's ads looked like Bill Gates. Um, after he discovered carbohydrates! :rolleyes:

Did somebody say kitchen? Is it time to eat?

I agree they should continue i like macs always have simple less issues and all but the price is the killing point everytime. i'm about to buy another pc soon and odds are not in apple's favor to say the least.

Macintrash is having problems... they should stick to making phones--
I dont really like their ads anymore.. and they are just for snob and style

I dont even have to pay 1k for a laptop you can get a really good one for under 600$ usually.

They talked smacked about intel, and now have adopted them and stroked them... what hypocrits

The real competition with MS is going to be googles new FREE OS

Time will tell...

Apple vs. PC

It is just history repeating itself. We users are either in the money or not. If you have Apple PC money you can get yourself "screwed to the wall" for twice as much money. The guy who says build it if you want it, he is the man, period. Now you are talking saving 3 and 4 times as much to get the same result.

The money is what the battle is all about. Apple has people brainwashed in computers like Detroit does with cars. Do you need a new PC or Apple every year?

When you want somethilng special, look at what is out there, take the specs off it and build a better mousetrap, no problem and cheaper. An amateur can do this because of all the techies out there falling over themselves trying to help you out. You buy something, get some good free advice to go with it, or don't buy it.

Apple people are no fun at all. I once had a garage full of Apples. The only reason I didn't allow myself the satisfaction of dumping them in the river was the pollution it would cause. So I loaded them in the pickup took them to the recycler and traded the entire load for one good floppy drive.

People like me who were burned real bad in the Apple / PC wars, are still suffering from the trauma.

A PC should be called a PPC. The Peoples Personal Computer. Your custodian is a real person. Would you give him an Apple? You should be shot if you think so. When that Apple goes on the fritz, the bill for repair will be astronomical. PC's are repaired for a flat fee of $35 every day.

Oh, yeah and another thing. People pick PC's up for next to nothing, garage sales, friends, trash bins. You get one and the flat rate applies. $35 and it is fixed. The parts are extra but cheap. But if you see an Apple in the Trash (And you will), Leave it there. (You could pull the hard drive and memory first though)

So is it not true that pcs have lots of trialware on them or is it not true that you can't take it, plug it up and go straight to web browsing?

Correct me if im wrong macs are ready to go right out of the box. No wasting time with things you could be doing with other pc's. Just plug and play.

Truth be told, the whole idea behind these commercials isn't groundless. Macbooks have always been expensive enough to discourage a lot of people from buying them. Mac users only buy Macs because they like the OS, so they're paying extra.

Considering that their previous campaign "I'm a Mac" attacked the USERS of PCs and not the hardware says something: Macs of any shape and size have nothing to really hold over PCs aside from their OS. I don't recall them ever saying anything about how great their OS is, instead it was nothing but a big smear campaign on Windows PCs, particularly Vista.

The "Notebook Hunt" idea is Microsoft playing NICE. Apple should take a page from their book and stop their stupid smear campaigns that blow every little problem with Vista completely out of proportion before they complain about the way Microsoft is doing business.

I think the comercials are working well, if they gave me the thousand bucks, I can damn well tell you that I would FIND a Mac to buy before I would even think about purchasing any of the PURE JUNK that are being sold as laptops today by the Windows world!

I have worked on several of these "NEW" PC laptops and I gotta say they are pure junk, they break way too easy, while the new Mac's are just getting better, they are WAY Worth the price.

Go ahead give me a thousand dollars, if nothing else I will go on EBAY and find a USED Macbook and give you back the Change.

I would rather use the old Thinkpad A22m that I am typing on right now then any of the junk that is being put out by the Chinese who make 99% of the pc Junk out there today.

I have a couple of old Mac laptops that I like very much and one day I hope to find a good enough deal to replace all my laptops with one good Macbook. For a desktop I found a wonderful old G4 with Duel 1.2 gig processors, Two gig of ram and it runs circles around all the PC's in the house. Love those Mac's the mac adds are SO right, pc adds are so stupid.

The whole fight is one of the dumbest things I have seen come down the TV road for a long time and I have been watching the tube since 1962 when Dad brought home an old used B&W floor modle that we could get two channels on if the wind was just right and nobody drove by in a Ford.

lol anonymous user, ever hear of dell or hp, or any of the other prebuilt pc companies? Yeah....those turn on too. Are you that ignorant about the whole pc side of this issue.

I think that both statements are true, PCs come with a bunch of trial/ bloat/ nonsense/ and vaporware installed. Some are worse than others, with Sony being the most "infected". Alienware machines I believe, are quite clean. But, by the same token you can any of them and plug it in, then head straight for the web. And yes, I understand the security software issue, and nobody cares enough to write malware aimed at Macs, so I don't think that that is the virtue of Mac that Apple credits itself with.

You could always charge yourself bench time for removing the crapware, against the price difference between the PC a Mac. Even with those charges applied, I believe that a comparable PC is still a fair amount cheaper than the Mac.
Some of the junk is quite useful! I don't run a business, so I don't need an office suite. The freebie "M$ Works" that came with my two store boughts, serves me admirably.