Apple pressures Microsoft to cease laptop hunter ads?

Apple has always stretched the truth or outright lied in their advertising. Even back in the 80's they touted the Apple as the "best selling personal computer" when the Commodore 64, for instance, overwhelmingly outsold any Apple computer. Now they lie about how Macs never crash, never have viruses, etc... I'm no fan of Vista (in fact I hate it), but Apple's lies are pathetic.

M$ works is pretty decent for most users me thinks. I agree with the above statement, good show CaptainCranky.

maybe apple will start to price their hardware more competitively.

Awwwwwww. Poor Apple. They screwed themselves into the ground back in the 80's with their pricing and licensing model. IBM, on the other hand, allowed clones of the Personal Computer to be created. And then along came M$. The rest is desktop computing history.

All Apple had to do back then is allow others to build Mac clones and license the Mac OS to them. Had they done that, it would probably be a different world. Instead, they chose the max-profits marketing system.

The only thing keeping Apple afloat now is the iPhone. And that dominance is slipping fast. Other smart phones are taking over the market. They have features, they're durable, and they are less expensive.

Apple even switched to the Intel processor platform in hopes of making a comeback. It isn't working.

What I dislike are the Apple devotees that swear up one side and down the other that Mac's don't get viruses. My standard reply is this...
- Yeah, they do.
- Now that Mac is on the Intel platform, viruses will become more prevalent
- IF (and that's a major IF), Apple ever really gains market share, look out.

See "Apple drops to 5th position in US computer sales" at http://www.neowin.net/news/main/09/07/16/apple-drops-to-5th-position-in-us-computer-sales

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ4xPV1c7jA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g47goge2S6I

Some disturbing news (and some laughs), courtesy of CNBC On The Money resident "tech specialist", Jim "*****MacFanboi" Goldman.

EPIC FAIL! :O

actually the biggest load of bull as far as apple commercials was the one where the pc guy was standing there wearing all this crap and the apple loser asked what he was doing, then pc stated it was antivirus measures.. and apple had the nerve to say they dont have to worry about viruses.. false advertisement in the most perfect example.. mac can have viruses.. one of the best ones ever written was specifically for macs several years ago.. the problem with writting a virus is why would someone waste their time and life writing a virus to target such a small amount of users.. majority if not all businesses run windows.. same as schools and the average computer in households around the world.. now how many people use macs.. hmm.. why write a virus when the goal is to cause the most damage.. and the price drop.. wow that was a big drop.. $100.. sad when they don't realize how business works.. you drop the price a little better and more people would be willing to fork in some money and buy an apple.. but all in all.. apple sucks..

Been doing this longer than most of you have been alive.

Apple in the 1980s had about an 18% U.S. market share. Today that is about 7.6 percent, for the math challenged that means the US Market PC share is 92.4 percent. So yes Apple does try for the "we are superior snob appeal approach." I am tried of hearing how "easy to use" or "problem free" Apple products are.
If you really believe that you are a Mac user, you have drank their Koo laid. American businesses and consumers are not in-efficient. They will in time gravitate to the superior product given relative equal product availability. Truth be told Apple is a closed society, proprietary system aimed at foolish product snobs or ill-informed newbies. Did you happen to catch the news that Apple re-configured their i-tunes software to be incompatible with the Palm Pre? This is not the action of a true superior product company.
Open systems, open minds, are the correct and efficient guides to superior and rapid product enhancements.

When Macs drop their prices, they will lose their fat margins for product design and see their market share wither further into irrelevance.

Software/ os aside:
If the hardware is equal.
The cost should be as well.

Heard this before Apple?

When Apples Fly...........

I was in WalMart earlier this evening. I saw a Toshiba laptop, Vista Home Basic, I think a couple GBs of RAM, 160GB HDD, and last but not least a DVD burner. Oops, almost forgot to mention the 17" screen. Hey, 400 bucks and it could have been mine.

As attractive as that offer was, I'm still going to save for a Mac that does less and costs twice as much.

Well, right after they change the Apple logo to a flying pig, I sure will.

Let the Apple Jacks whine it's what they're best at not a Microsoft fan but love that they're taking a shot at the over priced under power Apples.

I always refer back to the prices of "Net Books", when I compare, features, price, and of course screen resolution, in a low price laptop. Fact of the matter is, most 19" stand alone monitors have 1440 x 900 resolution. So, it's difficult to condemn a 400 dollar carry around for sporting the same rez. That, coupled with the fact the new generation TN panel screens are pretty much crap by any definition of standard anyway. I actually didn't realize that we were fighting, (as a group), I'm just being my obnoxious opinionated self. My way of having fun, as it were. This thread is so far off topic anyway, you should probably re-title it anyway.

Anyhoo, I don't know if I've mentioned this, but my son is the proud owner of a broken Mac-Mini. I gave him a Celeron 356 PC, which runs circles around the Mini in spite of the fact I didn't reinstall Windows when I changed the mother broad, just jambed the HDD back in it, and plugged it in. It's sort of typical but I really have to walk on eggshells when I discuss the Mini. Every statement must be prefaced with, "now Apple obviously offers a fine product". If not, and sometimes even if I say this, an argument ensues, thematically revolving around, you're picking on me, (again). So I guess he's the typical Mac owner, "to love me, you must also love my Mac". The kid. love him as I do, is quite a snob, went to art college and all that.

I doubt it. If you had any idea what kind of man Steve Jobs was, you'd be hesitant to say that.

That's what I was referring to when I said I doubt it. Sorry for the double post.

Wouldn't it be a far better excercise for both M/S & Apple be requested to produce a laptop at a given price, say $1200.00 for example, and THEN compare the product that they come out with?
Just to make it a fair contest that we could all accept, make one of the conditions be that the laptop model must be freely available on the market to the public for a period of approx 6 months.

macs are made in china too...

Enough already with Apple complaining about disinformation with respect to their prices.When I'm going out to buy a $300.00 laptop, I don't care which brand it might be!, If there's a Apple for 3 georges, I'll buy that. But, it has to be an actual computer. I'm not settling for just an empty white case. :rolleyes: :haha: