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BSOD at startup and random restarts

By Beer40oz
Jul 29, 2011
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  1. Beer40oz

    Beer40oz TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 35

    So you might think I need some other ram.... if so what? Can you link me to newegg on something you think? Thank you.

    If not I think I will be buying a new mobo....

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128504

    Someone recommended that to me.

    Also you think if the motherboard is bad is why my GPU GT430 is not doing so good? Before I RMA that card.
     
  2. Beer40oz

    Beer40oz TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 35


    Wait a minute onboard graphics video was enabled as UMA in the bios.... I disabled it.
    How can that make my computer trip out? well again we will see in the morning what happens.
     
  3. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,168   +37

    It causes conflicts. You have two different forms of video drivers attempting to do the same job.

    How is it running now?
     
  4. Beer40oz

    Beer40oz TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 35

    :) Good so far! This morning started up correctly!
    Well its just one day. We will see the fallowing. Should I install my GT 430 back in that gave me memory problems and the random boot ups and such? could it be that the GT 430 has no problems and the problem was that the onboard graphics was enabled?

    Yay! happy...
     
  5. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,168   +37

    Great to hear! I would go ahead and install your GT 430 but make sure the onboard video is disabled.

    If you begin having issues again then it is most likely the card though if you are getting problems I would update the drivers first to see if that brings stability.
     
  6. Beer40oz

    Beer40oz TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 35

    I will install the GT 430 back in a week... I wana make sure it keeps booting up correctly first. :) I will update. Thank you.
     
  7. Beer40oz

    Beer40oz TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 35

    I have not installed the GT 430 and today this morning after the windows logo it just went to a black screen nothing else ..... but my computer says it got a BSOD here it is.

    It was to good to be true... oh and a minidump file.


    Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
    OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.1
    Locale ID: 1033

    Additional information about the problem:
    BCCode: 24
    BCP1: 00000000001904FB
    BCP2: FFFFF88002F64728
    BCP3: FFFFF88002F63F80
    BCP4: FFFFF80002C47565
    OS Version: 6_1_7600
    Service Pack: 0_0
    Product: 256_1

    Files that help describe the problem:
    C:\Windows\Minidump\080511-18189-01.dmp
    C:\Users\Beer40oz\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-26332-0.sysdata.xml
     

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  8. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,168   +37

    Do you have your Windows OS disk?

    What make is your harddrive?

    Do this: Start > Run > Event Viewer > Okay Note any Yellow Triangles or Red X's and what they flag.
     
  9. Beer40oz

    Beer40oz TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 35

    Yes I have the disk.

    Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250 gigs

    Nothing in the event viewer exept 41- Kernal Power I guess when I force it to reboot.

    The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.

    Session "Microsoft-Windows-Setup" stopped due to the following error: 0xC000000D
     
  10. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,168   +37

    Okay, let's do this first: Go to Seagate's website and find their free harddrive diagnostic utility called SeaTools for Windows.

    1. Download the ISO file to your desktop.

    2. Double-click the ISO icon and whatever CD burning program you have burn it to a CD.

    3. You may have to set your DVD drive as First Bootable in the BIOS in order to do #4.

    4. Place the CD in your drive and reboot. SeaTools will engage seconds after boot-up.

    5. Do the tests in this order: S.M.A.R.T., Short DST, and especially the Long DST.

    * Get back with your results. (This will take some time)
     
  11. Beer40oz

    Beer40oz TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 35

    Ok so the test on the hard drive everything passed. (it did take a while on the long pass)

    I am getting told just to get a new mother board since Biostar might be picky on hardware compatibility.

    Any other ideas? or just get a new board?

    You are so much help thank you.
     
     
  12. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,168   +37

    As I have stated before my #1 suspicion is the RAM and motherboard compatibility especially by the fact that Biostar won't let you set the RAM to the factory voltage specs of 1.5.

    G.Skill makes great RAM.

    Because I hate to see people spend money on items they already spent try the following:

    1. Have you ever updated the BIOS ona motherboard before? If not, it isn't that hard but there are a few things to keep in mind. Find your motherboard on Biostar's website. Update from the website but don't do this wirelessly and don't lose power. It really doesn't take that long. Sometimes all it takes is a BIOS upgrade.

    2. If the above doesn't work then I would contact Biostar, briefly tell them of your issues and what you have done to attempt to correct, and then ask them if your G.Skill will work on this board. They will need to know the manufacture's # not that it is just G.Skill.
     
  13. Beer40oz

    Beer40oz TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 35

    I have looked on the bios firmware before and it's all up to date.

    It may be my RAM... yes spending money sucks. I could buy some other RAM.

    I give up.

    What I am going to do is buy a new Motherboard Micro-ATX because there is this case that I really like and my wife would too in the living room. So my full ATX wont fit in it. Its the LIAN LI PC-U6 Special Edition you seen it?

    Thank you so much for all your help.

    What brand of motherboards you trust the most?
     
  14. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,168   +37

    Glad I could be of help; sorry I couldn't do more. Asus and Gigabyte are good boards. See if you can use your G.Skill on the various models.

    Lian Li cases have a great reputation.

    Please keep us updated as to what you decide/do. Thanks.
     
  15. Beer40oz

    Beer40oz TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 35

    Hey no problem...
    Just incase you wana keep looking at it.
    Here is another..... this one the computer went blank while surfing.


    Problem signature:
    Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
    OS Version: 6.1.7600.2.0.0.256.1
    Locale ID: 1033

    Additional information about the problem:
    BCCode: 24
    BCP1: 00000000001904FB
    BCP2: FFFFF88006D9E798
    BCP3: FFFFF88006D9DFF0
    BCP4: FFFFF880012DFA84
    OS Version: 6_1_7600
    Service Pack: 0_0
    Product: 256_1
     

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  16. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,168   +37

    Your error is 0x00000024: NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM
    A problem occurred within NTFS.SYS, the driver file that allows the system to read and write to NTFS file system drives. There may be a physical problem with the disk, or an Interrupt Request Packet (IRP) may be corrupted. Other common causes include heavy hard drive fragmentation, heavy file I/O, problems with some types of drive-mirroring software, or some antivirus software.

    Earlier I asked if you have the Windows Disk. Have we tried a Windows Repair yet?
     
  17. Beer40oz

    Beer40oz TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 35

    Hi Route 44 long time...

    Well I got me a new motherboard gigabyte everything has been working great 5 days till now. I get a bsod about 3 times in a row and cant get into windows. And when I did get into windows I could not move my mouse and stuff. So I am in safe Mode and I got the mini dumps for you.

    BSOD said : 0x00000050

    THe last driver I updated before this issue was the audio Realtek....

    Then I can not do a system restore its says: The instructionn at 0xfbb8584d reference memory at0x0000008 . The memory could not be read.

    Oh and also the second day it did restart on me while just surfing the web.

    And yes only the motherboard was replaced everything else is the same.

    Please help.

    Thank you.
     

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  18. Beer40oz

    Beer40oz TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 35

    WOW! I just did a memory test..... first pass and there is 3,000+ errors
    I don't get it, the memory went bad that fast? I did the test when I installed this new motherboard
    for 7 passes and it was all good. And remember on the other motherboard it also passed more than 7 passes.

    What to do? or is it my new motherboard failed?
     
  19. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,168   +37

    Link us both memory and motherboard. Does the memory voltage in the BIOS match the manufacture's specs?
     
  20. Beer40oz

    Beer40oz TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 35

  21. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,168   +37

    In the BIOS look for the DIMM Voltage. 1.5 is correct and G.Skill makes great RAM.

    Two things...

    1. Check Gigabyte's recommended memory for this board on their website.

    2. Even new memory can be bad. It is more common than most people realize. That is one lot of errors.
     
  22. Beer40oz

    Beer40oz TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 35

    I looked in the bios and it says in PC health monitor..... DDr3 .1.5V this is next to it 1.472V

    So is it running at 1.5v? I looked at all settings and can not change that Voltage only to 1.6V

    This memory is not on there list.
     
  23. Beer40oz

    Beer40oz TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 35

    Well it looks like the RAM is at 1.472V it will let me go to 1.584... ok so I am lost. What do I need to do? buy new RAM? should I take one stick out and do the MEmtest? and see witch one is bad or if there is a good one switch it over to the ram slot and see if the slot is bad?

    I am running memtest again and it passed one try one.... :( i have some bad luck with huh...
     
  24. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 12,168   +37

    1. Yes, run it per stick @ a minimum of 7 Passes.

    2. That board should be setting it at 1.5v as that is what it is what both board and memory are designed for. Can you take a jpg. of that BIOS screen? 1.47 is the better of the two.

    3. Check the motherboard's manual and see if you have the sticks in the correct slot configuration fro dual channel.
     
  25. eskro

    eskro TS Rookie

    he cant really go wrong with ram slots,,,
    he's got 2 only,,,

    if memtest reveals ram is OK,

    im starting to wonder is his PSU might be the culprit,,,
     


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