Building a gaming PC, I have found all parts

By F1N3ST
Aug 23, 2006
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  1. Face of LA

    Face of LA Newcomer, in training Posts: 186

    u kiddin me right?? Pentium D Dual Core 3.0GHZ 4mb L2 Cache outclasses AMD Athlon 64!!u go try it for ur self!

    i wud change the GFX Card! get A ATI Power color X800 GTO
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814131007
    Its better than what u gettin and same price
  2. sellmesanity

    sellmesanity Newcomer, in training Posts: 268

    The x800gto is a horrible card. The 7600gt is the only reasonable choice for him, trust me. I've tried both cards.

    Any Pentium processor is inferior to any Athlon 64 (or 64 x2) (in terms of architecture) Most dual cores are better than single cores, however.
  3. F1N3ST

    F1N3ST Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,088

  4. sellmesanity

    sellmesanity Newcomer, in training Posts: 268

    I LOVE that case. I agree with all of these parts. Excellent. If I were you, I would sell parts of your computer on ebay, or the whole thing on Craigslist for about 200 bucks. You'd be lucky to get that much for it! You're best of selling the parts to people individually. With a slight overclock the E6300 can easily be faster than an E6400 and it can go even further. Keep me posted...

    Wait a second, did you chose a power supply? You CANNOT have a stock power supply if you plan to overclock, let alone use any Video Card....unless you want instability and component failure.
  5. F1N3ST

    F1N3ST Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,088

  6. MetalX

    MetalX TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,909

    X800GTO is not a horrible card. It may not be as good as the 7600GT but it's still pretty good. Also not all Athlon 64s beat all pentiums. 3.2ghz and higher single core P4s (as long as they have HT) beat Athlon 64 single-cores up to 4000+. And P4-EE 3.73 double-core (not dual-core) beats Athlon 64 4800+.
  7. sellmesanity

    sellmesanity Newcomer, in training Posts: 268

    I still think you have good parts, although I am not sure how good BFG's warranty is, I am sure that eVGA has better tech support and lifetime warranty though...OH WELL. As for power supply...how much are you willing to spend on it, and do you know if you are overclocking for sure? If you are overclocking itll be about 80 bucks. If not then about 50. Tell me so I can help you pick one.


    Well yeah it isn't horrible, but it is certainly lackluster for a gaming machine. The sapphire x800gto I had a while back had all sorts of problems. Overheating, artifacting, black screens, massive fps drops, loud noise. What I am trying to say is that the Athlon 64 architecture in general is way better than the Pentium D and Pentium 4's Net Burst architecture. Can you prove that Pentium 4's with HT beat Single-Cores up to 4000+? I do not agree with that. Of course the P4-EE 3.73 beats the 4800+, the P4-EE is meant to face off with Athlon 64's FX line, not the regular consumer dual core line.
  8. F1N3ST

    F1N3ST Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,088

    Umm, i will overclock the GFX Card, I dont know how to overclock the processor, but since you said it will be a big performance increase i will :) but 80$ /die how would a 380W Antec do because everything i have added has been more expensive lol. And my emachines has a "Bestec" PSU in it if those are good lol.
  9. F1N3ST

    F1N3ST Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,088

  10. sellmesanity

    sellmesanity Newcomer, in training Posts: 268

  11. F1N3ST

    F1N3ST Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,088

    Ok, how about a 400w or 420w PSU from Antec :)
     
  12. sellmesanity

    sellmesanity Newcomer, in training Posts: 268

    I understand that you are trying to save money. The only other Antec that I recommend unless you are absolutely not going to overclock is the 430 watt version of the one I showed you. Problem is that it is the exact same price as the better version of it (the 480watt) The Smart Power 450 is 59 bucks, and you can't overclock with that thing, and it is 10 bucks cheaper which barely saves you any money.
  13. F1N3ST

    F1N3ST Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,088

    Ok, ill buy the multi million dollar one lol. I guess its fine since i saved 20$ on the GFX card :)
  14. sellmesanity

    sellmesanity Newcomer, in training Posts: 268

    That's the spirit
  15. F1N3ST

    F1N3ST Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,088

    And i saved 20$ on the RAM. The total comes to $628.61 without HD, or Optical drives, which i have both.
  16. Mirob

    Mirob TechSpot Paladin Posts: 841

    Very nice, I like it! I'm using this FSP 450 with a E6300, P5W DH and a X1900xt and it works fine, but I know I close to it's limits.

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  17. F1N3ST

    F1N3ST Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,088

    Im gettin a differant case with 2 120mm fans :D so i can run cooler.
  18. Face of LA

    Face of LA Newcomer, in training Posts: 186

    x800GTO Is a Super gamin Video Card, AND Still the Pentium D Dual Core 3.0GHZ 4MB L2 Cache ****s on the Athlon 64, and i wont even compare the Core 2 duo to Athlon cuz its better by Faaaaaar.
    Intel > AMD, Hate it or love it its like that
     
  19. sellmesanity

    sellmesanity Newcomer, in training Posts: 268

    This is not a flaming thread, so I will not start any immature arguments. Just know that the Pentium D is inferior to the Athlon 64 in terms of architecture. The Core 2 Duo, however, is faster than both the Pentium D and Athlon 64 X2.
  20. Face of LA

    Face of LA Newcomer, in training Posts: 186

    ^ i know this aint flamin thread, but u gotta wake up, Just Cuz u got An Athlon 64 doesnt mean its better than everythin out there, Pentium D Dual Core 3.0GHZ Is better, And no, i dont have pentium D,
  21. sellmesanity

    sellmesanity Newcomer, in training Posts: 268

    Well let's use your logic. If I have an Athlon 64 and that makes me think it is better than everythin' out there, then why do I say that the Core 2 Duo is superior to both of them? Do some research before you confuse these people that are trying to build good computers. Research "Netburst architecture" and then make outrageous statements.
  22. Face of LA

    Face of LA Newcomer, in training Posts: 186

    ^ i Aint Confusin no one, of course u wudnt say that Athlon 64 is better than Core2 duo, cuz Even the fools know that Core 2 duo is better,
    i aint tellin him what to get here, im tellin him to think before gettin anythin, cuz at the end its his call u and if he got the ahtlon instead of the pentium d or core 2 duo and got fooled he wont be able to do nothin about it,

    SO My Advice for u to get the Core 2 duo F1N3ST and if u cudnt afford it, get the Pentium D DUal Core as a second choice
    and good luck with whatever u gettin
  23. sellmesanity

    sellmesanity Newcomer, in training Posts: 268

    F1N3ST made his decision already, and he made a great decision with all of our help. Good luck!
  24. F1N3ST

    F1N3ST Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 1,088

    Lol, here is my chain of processors going from most expensive and best, to least expensive-

    #1-Core 2 Duo
    #2-Athlon 64 X2
    #3-Pentium D
    #4-Athlon 64 HT
    #5-Pentium 4 HT

    And i think all my current applications are single core, but i figure while im playing a game 1 core will handle explorer and the background programs, and 1 core will be playing the game. Here is all the money i have right now lol, 80$.
    [​IMG]
  25. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,280   +23

    There is no Athlon 64 HT as far as I know. But the Core 2 Duo seems best, since Socket 939 is fast becoming obsolete and AM2 is quite expensive ATM.

    And as for Face_of_LA's argument, the X2 kills the Pentium D by a very long shot. Just because the Pentium D has higher clockspeeds and more L2 cache, doesn't mean it's faster. The NetBurst architecture it uses means that even though the Pentium D has higher clockspeeds, it does less work per cycle than a similar Athlon 64 X2. Hence the former performs very poorly as compared to an X2 with clockspeeds 1GHz lower than it. Look it up on Wikipedia here.
    And just for ur info, this is what it says on that page.
    Capice?
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