Building first gaming PC

Hi all,

I have never used a desktop besides at work and at university, so yes, I have been a complete laptop person for pretty much my whole life. Things change, however, so I am making a transition to desktop. Anyways, since this is my first post, I shall adhere to the post-making guide.

What are you going to use the PC for?
- Gaming. Pretty hardcore gaming, going to graduate end of this year and plan to take a year off doing nothing except casual work and lotsa gaming before I go corporate for life [oh how wonderful].

How much is your budget?
- $AUD 1300 - 1500

Where are you located? (a.k.a. fill out your profile)
- Okay. I'm bad, have not filled my profile, but Sydney, Australia

Are you willing to buy online?
- Depends, even though AUD USD dollar parity, I still feel its easier to handle if I were to get my parts from Australia. Oh yer, Australia is quite a bad country for building own laptops, let alone desktops, as there is pretty much only 1 place for parts [oh what a pain, I cannot link since I do not have 5 posts+]:

Google MSY Australia -> "Parts Pricelist Updated Daily" -> "Click here for our best parts price list in PDF Format"

Are you going to re-use any parts from an earlier build?
- No.

Do you need other peripherals like a monitor, keyboard and mouse, among others?
- A big screen does sound good. Keyboard and mouse I have already.

Have you already bought any parts?
- No. But I have read various reviews of parts so I sort of have an idea of what I want. For easy comparison, something like the Enthusiast's PC will do pleasantly for me.

Do you have an Operating System (OS)?
- WinXP, Win7HomePremium

Will you need any aftermarket cooling, such as a CPU\GPU cooler or a watercooling setup?
- Is it recommended?

On a side note, HT Omega does not distribute into Australia, but does individual international sales for $90 + $15shipping. Is it worth it? And is dedicated sound a necessity?

Cheers.
 
Do you have an Operating System (OS)?
- WinXP, Win7HomePremium
You mean that you already have one and won't need to purchase one right?

On a side note, HT Omega does not distribute into Australia, but does individual international sales for $90 + $15shipping. Is it worth it? And is dedicated sound a necessity?
Nah...unless you're an audiophile. Money is better spent elsewhere.

Would you like an SSD? How much storage do you need (I just threw in $180 worth of 1.5TB to get a price total).
Also, note that the HD6000 series is coming out very soon. At the very least, it may instill price drops, so I'd actually wait about a week.


OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3RPR1600C8LV4GK
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T Thuban 2.8GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT55TFBGRBOX
Antec Nine Hundred Two Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
Western Digital Caviar Black WD2001FASS 2TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
2x MSI R5850 Twin Frozr II Radeon HD 5850 (Cypress Pro) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card w/ Eyefinity
GIGABYTE GA-890GPA-UD3H AM3 AMD 890GX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
LG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache IDE 22X DVD±R DVD Burner - OEM

Total: $1,365.87 without rebates/shipping/promo codes.
There won't be a huge price discrepancy for AUD. I didn't include a monitor, so you'll have to add that in too.
IMO a very preliminary build, we'll probably have to adjust it a bit, especially given the HD6000 series though I'm under the impression that it won't be a huge step.

EDIT: I'm starting to think that it may be better to get a p55+i5 and SLI two GTX460's, then get a bigger monitor. Anyone else?

Alternatively, you could drop the AMD motherboard, Phenom II X6, and the 2x 5850's for:
Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor BX80605I5750
2x Palit NE5X460SF1102 GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Sonic 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
MSI P55A-GD55 LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Hmph, thats only about $60 cheaper...I though it'd be a bit more.
 
Well first HK, you have the memory linked to the CPU and itself.

Moving on, I like Intel builds, and everybody that games likes twin GT-460s.

This would be the i5-750; http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=i5-750 For on reason or another, Chipzilla has me addicted, whether it always makes sense or not.

For some reason, I like the original Antec 900 better. In the 1200 and the 900 (2) the front grill openings are too coarse for my taste.

I like the looks of this; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133072 It's aesthetically more refined, at least to my way of thinking. Note that we're not recommending it, just commenting on it.

You can never have too big a monitor. I've moved to IPS panels, so I have to give up at 24", otherwise to price is too extreme.
 
Ahh thats right, pick whatever case you want, the antec 902 is just there as place-holder as it is a pretty normal price for a case, maybe a little on the high side.
 
Thank you.

Thank for all the contributions.

And so, I have legged it around town checking up some prices and availability of certain parts and have made some findings:

1. For the OCZ Memory, is there a huge difference between CAS 8 and CAS 6? Is Corsair 4GB Dominator-GT an alternative?

2. And for MSI R5850 Twin Frozr, they only sell it under XFX and it's at a ridiculous price of 435AUD. Will

ASUS EAH5850 DirectCU TOP/2DIS/1GD5, 765MHz Core Clock, 4500MHz Memory
Clock (effective), 1024MB 256-bit GDDR5, PCI-Express 2.0 x16

suffice? I am sorry in advance for the lack of URL links.

3. Australia no longer sell i5-750 so its all i5-760. That in mind, the price of AMD Phenom II x6 1055T sells at 199AUD and the i5-760 at 226. Given these prices, which one would be better?

Cheers.
 
1. For the OCZ Memory, is there a huge difference between CAS 8 and CAS 6? Is Corsair 4GB Dominator-GT an alternative?
Here, Corsair Dominator-GT is incredibly expensive. IMO if it's more than $10 dollars more, not worth it.

ASUS EAH5850 DirectCU TOP/2DIS/1GD5, 765MHz Core Clock, 4500MHz Memory
Clock (effective), 1024MB 256-bit GDDR5, PCI-Express 2.0 x16
That'd be fine; same card really.

3. Australia no longer sell i5-750 so its all i5-760. That in mind, the price of AMD Phenom II x6 1055T sells at 199AUD and the i5-760 at 226. Given these prices, which one would be better?
Phenom II, just because it's a bit cheaper.
You can probably save some money on the motherboard too if you're not going to crossfire.
 
The HD6000 are out! YAY! Gigabyte HD6850 are only $249 if I pre-order them for 25th Oct... much cheaper than I would have thought... shall read the reviews later... any thoughts on them now?

It seems the HD6870 is meant to be >= to the 5850 but cheaper, at $315AUD. I will probably go with that now, lest the price of 5850 drops heaps in the coming week.

Any new thoughts?

EDIT: NviDia mulls price-cuts to counter the HD6800s, hrmm wonder how much they are gonna cut it down by? The Palit Sonic Edition 1GB sitting at 295AUD right now...
 
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