OK first, you and "guest" are doing a damned fine job indeed of trolling one another, thus making my life much easier, since all I have is a clunky old keyboard to respond. So, thanks again. On the other hand, you have assumed the posture of defending Win 8, and quite vehemently at that. The syntax of your posts, tend to give rise to the belief that you are indeed, a proud owner of this OS. So, our only point of impasse is this, I don't see where it's necessary to try Windows 8, to know that you don't like it, or don't want it. That's what all the hype surrounding its release should tell you, whether or not it's right for you. In my case, I gave some specificity to my reasoning behind not my being interested in becoming involved with it. It wasn't really an emotional response, or one motivated by my being "brainwashed". There's a Windows 8 thread, and most of the "proponents" of Win 8, seem to be disappointed in themselves because they just don't like it, but think that they're obligated to do so. And as I always like to point out, "your results may vary".