Built-in advertising: The Windows 8 feature you haven't heard about

And to think I was about to try and like Win-8, this one is a blow below waist.

I have no idea exactly what you're trying to say, but you did spell "bullshit" correctly and you get one point for that....

(But only one point! You're lucky I don't take that away on account of the double post).

An obnoxious move. If the day comes that I'm forced to use Windows 8 I'll be looking for the adblocker tool asap.

OK look, "Guest's" rant was anti consumerism. I consider that a valid reason for not being interested in Windows 8.

I also agree with you, that to patently judge something without explanation, is indeed irritating. It's irritating because it's usually done in a manner that makes one believe the originator is a victim of brainwashing. The same could be said, perhaps more strenuously about positive statements made toward a product, since advertising is a euphemism for "propaganda", and "propaganda", is a euphemism for "brainwashing". People ingest propaganda, then they spew propaganda! It's practically the circle of life....

In practice, many people don't have the time, or choose to spend the time, laying out the foundation or their belief system.

There's probably a component of self defense in there, from getting sucked into too many political and religious arguments.

But yeah, mindless people say mindless things. If you get a chance read a bit of Piaget. His theories about our "concrete operational", and "abstract operational" stages, could be of value to you in sorting these issues out.

For example, our Philadelphia Eagles suck on a not at all intermittent basis (*). Yet Philly people love them, and continue to buy season tickets, year upon unending year. So, what do you think you'd hear from their fans, if you asked, "why do you like the Eagles? I'd say if someone said "because" that person would believe he, (or she), had, "elaborated". In reality, all they're doing is making the team owner a very rich man. Because God knows, they're not going to see them coming home with a Superbowl trophy, at least probably not in my lifetime.

Personally, I spell the team's name, "E-E-G--H-O-L-E-S", and I won't be buying either a season ticket, or for that matter, a copy of Windows 8, anytime in the future.

(*) Clever use of a double negative, if I do say so myself.

What rock did you crawl out from?

Any news site you take has a crap load of ads and one need to pay a dollar for it. Windows 8 is a whole OS in less than 100 bucks. It's good to see the low OS prices with few non-distracting ads in it versus spending $400 on ad-free OS where all the 3rd party apps keep popping up numerous ads.

Ewww ads... with data cap and internet speed every data counts... cheap mS

@captaincranky: The media center option is available free for download till the end of January if you by windows 8 pro. I think you get it at window.com.

Ya know Tony, I appreciate you looking out for me. But honestly, I haven't seen anything in Windows 8 that compels me to even want to try it. That's not a judgment on its quality or lack thereof. It's butt ugly, I have no need for a touch screen. I have XP machines all over the house so I can run Nero 6. Most of the other software I use is free, with the exception of Photoshop, and Photoshop Elements. There's no chance of M$ herding me to some dumb "app store". I don't need a stinking smart phone app to get inundated with local news on an instant's notice. It repeats every 20 minutes anyway. I don't have a smart phone, I don't need a smart phone, I don't want a smart phone, which again excludes me from win 8's, "target demographic". Hell, I don't even answer the land line I have. How could Windows 8 possibly "enrich my life"?

The Win 7 task bar, Aero interface, and slide show background is a constant joy to me. Why would I ever go to this new gobbledegook, that for all the world, looks like a bad photo of a set of Fischer-Price children's blocks?

There was an iPad commercial on TV not too long ago, exhorting how you could, use your iPad to control your TV"! I must be really an anachronism, because there I was, thinking to my myself, "isn't that what the stinking 10 dollar remote than came with the TV is for"? Little did I know you needed to spend 6 bills to change the channel, or face social disgrace. Again, proving my unsuitability as a prospective Win 8 user.

I usually build a new computer for myself for Christmas. (It's a dirty, thankless, unnecessary overindulgence, but nobody else will do it for me)! The Win 7 Pro 64 bit is already, "hung by the stockings with care", in the hopes that "St. Cranky Claus" will soon be there.

Thank you, that's really cheered me up .

Time to move to Linux, it's free, it's ad free, truly an OS for the user.

Oh everybody says that, then they try it, and most come right back to Windows. It's generally a PITA to wait around for WINE to catch up with the programs you need to use now.

That notwithstanding, a couple of years ago, I found Ubuntu incapable of recognizing SATA drives as IDE, and reached an impasse with Linux demanding SATA drivers that for all intents and purposes, didn't exist. In in a BIOS attached to a Windows XP, all you need do is click, "run as IDE", and your driver troubles and need go away. You can't expect the average housewife to be willing to take on a hassle like that. I hope they have native SATA drivers packed with Ubuntu now. But, it's a day late and dollar short for me, even if they do.

M$ is in a tough position with this tablet nonsense. The explosion of tablet usage has forced their hand into the form the OS has take.

If desktop adoption isn't what they hope it will be, they will be forced to retool the interface access for the desktop in Windows 9. However, if the tablet market continues to expand to the point where they believe they're meeting their profit goals, "power users" will be SOL.

What's left after that , is the possible release of a separate "enterprise" edition, with an attendant hefty price tag to compensate for the smaller potential sales base.

Ads in the OS what's next! I am sure the HOST file could be edited to block out ads from running. I don't use Windows Live it seems to be required to use Windows 8 fully.

I do not think he is comparing cocaine with an OS. He is merely discussing a mechanism of how one forms an opinion, wether that is an OS or cocaine and I for one find it a valid argument.

I for one, never tried same gender sex, and I can tell you I never will and if other people want to, fine that is their decision, but I formed a valid opinion about what I think of it before even trying. I will also not dive out of a plane woth or without aparachute eventhough I never tried it and I will never hit my wife and my girlfriend, all because I find it unappealing and jeez, I never even tried it.

captaincranky
My experience is different: I have an Ububtu and a Windows 7 system. My Ubuntu system recognizes most add ons without having to provide a driver whereas my windows system has trouble recognizing just about anything with or without a driver. But then again, even after rigorous cleaning, updating and whatnot, my Windows 7 now needs a solid 35 MINUTES to start up of which most of the time it apepars to do just nothing. No, I am not a windows hater (though microsoft makes that hard not to) but for the life of me I dont understand why windows seems to have problems with just about anything and just gets slower the more you use it, while my ubuntu system just runs smooth time after time after time. I will give windows that their desktop looks a bit smarter than Ubuntu

I noticed the ads except I didn't really notice them until I read this. How does the program know if I've seen the ad?

Not that it matters. I'm going to remove all that 'Bing' stuff anyway, and next time I'll maybe try a Chromebook (Just as long as they've introduced a 'local storage' option...).

To further explain my issues with Ubuntu, I was simply unable to settle the driver issue to to complete an install, without providing external drivers for my SATA HDDs. There, I would have needed a RAID card, and the drivers associated to get the HDDs recognized by Linux. I was able to install Ubuntu on an ancient eMachines T-5026, which as it turns out DOES run SATA drives as SATA, because it has Intel's SATA drivers integrated into the the Windows XP "image", AKA "restore discs". So, if you reload that OS, it loads the Intel SATA drivers from an image, rather than forcing you to install them via floppy. Ububtu "?.0" that I tried was workable, but so isa the XP installation in that machine, and I saw no salient advantage in keeping the dual boot OSes.

In all honesty, this just sounds like a troll. I'm not one to sit around and brag, or give much thought to boot times but, the eMachine I mentioned, takes less than maybe 5 minutes to boot, but, it's running an Intel 915 chipset, with DDR <notice there's no number behind the last "Dee"!

Again, I am fairly unconcerned about boot times, since I have no intention of rushing out to buy an SSD to improve mine. With that said, my Core-i3-530 box (H-55 DDR#@1333) boots in about 45 seconds, from a Seagate "Barracuda 11" 320GB.

I expect my results are much, much, closer to the norm, than are yours. So, while I think it's great that you're a staunch supporter of Linux, I also think it's a bit comical that you can manage the Ubuntu installation, yet your Windows installation is hosed, and obviously out of your realm of experience and ability to control
If I had a 35 minute boot time on anything, I'd repair or replace it.

So, my best counsel for you is either: reinstall Windows on a new HDD, (that would kill two diagnostic birds with one stone), take the machine to a qualified tech for repair, call M$ support so they can tell you the same thing I just did, manage which programs are running at startup (msconfig), or last, but certainly not least, stop bullshitting and/or trolling. If none of the forgoing meet your current needs or expectations, you could ask our "Virus & Malware Removal Forum" for assistance...... (And with a 35 minute boot time, if I were you, I'd ask very respectfully). Go ye forth as a supplicant! To here: http://www.techspot.com/community/forums/virus-and-malware-removal.28/

This is a witty and topical reply. But, it could have been better with some selected quotes to help us know to who you're replying. I'm pretty sure I do, but the drift tends to get lost as other posts come between the quoter and the quoted.

I realize a"Guest" doesn't get the same option for "reply" (which automatically quotes the intended "victim"), as a logged in member but, the quote.> " < mark on the far right of the toolbar, will place a quote box around pre-selected text.

Don't select text, and hit ( " ) you get either nada or squat depending on whether English is your 1st or 2nd language

Or, you could simply join, and "join" the fray.

"
98SE = good
ME = bad
XP = good
Vista = bad
7 = good
8 = starting to look like another turkey."

After ME came Windows 2000 and Vista isn't bad, ask anyone running it with uptodate drivers and SP2.

Thats exactly what I have been saying and exactly why I will not be buying Windows 8. I could probably get used to the functionality of Windows 8, but why would I promote Windows 8 when I don't fully agree with the direction Microsoft is going?