Buying a New Video card

By akaivan
Mar 16, 2006
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  1. akaivan

    akaivan TechSpot Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 620

    ok i got it, i forgot to add in my system specs that i have a pc2700 512 mb ram, sorry bout that so in total i have about 768???
  2. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,565

  3. akaivan

    akaivan TechSpot Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 620

    so its just the motherboard i need to change?and will the new mobo support the video card, you sent me in a link?? And will all my other things work with eachother?
  4. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,565

    I am actually NOT recommending you change your motherboard. With your budget, it doesn't make sense to me to do so.

    And I am still not convinced that your 2.4 cpu MUST run at 1.8 assuming that you have provided the correct info on your motherboard.

    I think with your budget, your best bet is to keep your current motherboard, do everything you can to get that CPU running at 2.4, and then upgrade your video card ONLY. You don't have the cash to do much else at this point, and I think this path would give you the best boost in your gaming.
  5. spartanslayer

    spartanslayer Newcomer, in training Posts: 464

    If you have like $360, I recomend buying a low-end dell, and then upgrading the video card. It's pretty cheap, and dell's are some of the best premade computers out there. If you don't have the cash, I recomend what Don said. Good Luck!
  6. akaivan

    akaivan TechSpot Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 620

    yea but the thing is i dont know what to do with my motherboard to run at 2.4 :confused: :(
  7. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,565

    OK, first let's find out exactly what CPU you have.

    Download and run CPU-z on your computer and put up a screenshot of what it tells you about your CPU as well as your mainboard info (or type the info out in a post).

    http://www.techspot.com/downloads/27-cpu-z.html
  8. akaivan

    akaivan TechSpot Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 620

    ok try this link here a screenshot. pic
  9. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,565

    Here we go. You need to change some jumpers on your motherboard to move up to a FSB of 133 (currently you are set to only 100)

    Here is your motherboard's manual:
    http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Produc...nuID=16&LanID=0&DetailID=51&DetailName=Manual

    Have a look at the pages about jumper settings. There are diagrams showing you where they are, and how you have to set them. After you do this, your CPU will run at 2.4Ghz.

    For 133 FSB:
    JP1A1 - Short 2-3
    JP1B1 - Short 1-2

    For DDR RAM:
    JP1 - Open
    J2A/B/C/D - Short
    J3A/B/C/D - Short

    So the next question is, what speed ram do you have in there?
  10. akaivan

    akaivan TechSpot Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 620

    ok i have switched the jumpers before but when i try to start up the screen stays black????? i really dont know what the spped o ram is but 1 is a 512 pc 2700 and the other is 256mb pc 2300, i have tried switching jumpers withought the 512 but same thing happens.?? :dead: :dead:
  11. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,565

    Your motherboard supports PC2100 ram at best. All that ram you have in there is not really made for your motherboard, and probably explains why you are not able to boot up when you switch to a 133FSB.

    Use that CPU-z program to find out EXACTLY what your ram speed is. There is no such thing as PC2300 ram. Do you mean 3200?
     
  12. akaivan

    akaivan TechSpot Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 620

    ok ill try that, but jp1 is open but how do i change the other two? it looks like i cant move anything there?
  13. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,565

    You don't have the jumpers for it?

    Look at this picture. It is not your motherboard, so yours probably looks different, but it'll illustrate what you need to do anyways.

    [​IMG]

    The two pins in the middle have the jumper on them. This is what your manual means when it says "short". It means to put the jumper on. The two sets on the outside are both "open" which means "no jumper".

    If you don't have the jumpers, you'll need to buy some. They are usually "universal" and you can buy them from any computer parts store for a few cents.
  14. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,565

    Also, please use that CPUz program to find out your ram speeds. This will be very important. You may need to buy new ram. Hopefully once you change the jumpers to DDR this'll fix you up though.

    You mention above that you have a "512 pc 2700 and the other is 256mb pc 2300".

    There is no such thing as 2300 ram... is it 3200 or 2100?
  15. akaivan

    akaivan TechSpot Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 620

    ok im looking inside the memory tab in cpuz What is the speed under? the frequency is 100??? is that it?
  16. akaivan

    akaivan TechSpot Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 620

    ok im looking at the ram slot 1 and it sais my 256 mb ram is pc2300 142 mhz???
  17. akaivan

    akaivan TechSpot Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 620

    ok should the 2 other jumpers all be coverd or all be open?? with no jumper on top of them>>>????? right now all jumpers are cover with litle plastic peices?
  18. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,565

    Where are you looking to get these numbers? Run CPUz and get the info from there. Post a screenshot if you can.
     
  19. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,565

    No, it needs to be set EXACTLY as it describes in your manual, which is here:
    http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWeb/Produc...nuID=16&LanID=0&DetailID=51&DetailName=Manual

    Read the manual, and set the jumpers so your ram is DDR and your FSB is set to 133Mhz.
  20. akaivan

    akaivan TechSpot Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 620

    how do i post a screenshot?
  21. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,565

    OK, probably better if you just type out what it is saying under the PDF tab (the ram information).
  22. akaivan

    akaivan TechSpot Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 620

    GUESS WHAT!!!! I FIXED IT LOL. OK the memory works fine with the 2.4 too, i didnt touch a thing of memery but what i did is switch jp1 to the 133 mhz and then i took the cmos batterie jumper off and started the computer. then it shut down itself so i put the jumper back on but switched sides. and i turned on again and nuthing so i put back to normal and now it works on 2.4!!!! Thanks for all your help, but how do i make sure it runs on 2.4 cpuz says it does so im thinking its good. Now next video card, what should i choose to go with my agp 4x??? And how will i know if my psu will power it? Is there a program were i can test if i have any power leftover? :angel:
  23. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,565

    Great news! Glad to hear you got yourself up to 2.4Ghz. If CPU-z says you are at 2.4, then you can trust it. You're done!

    Next, open up your case, and look at the sticker that is stuck to your PSU. Can you tell me what it says? Specifically, who is the maker, and most importantly, how many amps is it putting out on the +12v?

    Next, go here and see how your computer feels about having a 9800pro or a 6600GT (agp) in it:
    http://www.extreme.outervision.com/
  24. akaivan

    akaivan TechSpot Maniac Topic Starter Posts: 620

    OK my PSU
    CODEGEN 300w
    115v/230v~,8/4A
    60/50HZ
  25. DonNagual

    DonNagual TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 3,565

    I'm worried about your PSU handling a new graphics card, to tell the truth.

    You have a wooping 10amps on the 12v rail. :dead:

    Unfortunately, the only way to tell is to buy a graphics card, and give it a shot. If you find that it isn't running properly, the problem is your PSU.

    You can get a good psu these days for very cheap though. For example, this one here is $37 and has over 30amps on the (dual) 12v rails:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817104952
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