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Cheap gaming PC build

By smellyfo27
Oct 25, 2009
  1. i have about a $500 limit (if i use the BillMeLater pay option)

    this is the build i was recommended :

    AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition - $102.00
    MSI 785GTM-E45 - $69.99
    Patriot Viper 2 x 2GB DDR2 800 - $75.99
    HIS Radeon HD 4670 1GB - $74.99
    CORSAIR CMPSU-400CX 400W - $49.99
    Antec Three Hundred - $59.95
    Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB - $47.99

    by Ritwik7~ thx

    should i go with this build or does ne one recommend ne thing else?

    also i currently have a sparkle GeForce 9400GT PCI. i went to micro center and the dude told me thats like the best card i can buy for PCI (i dont have PCI Express on my current computer). i was wondering how well that will run a game like flyff then maybe higher end games later. if it runs well then i will probably end up not getting a graphics card

    ne help is appreciated

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  2. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,909   +91

    I like Rit's build a lot, :) I would offer this alternative only because the X4 620 Propus does better in gaming and is $99. also games are now multi threaded and making use of more than two cores, and that obviously will be the standard in the future. also when you use the machine for productivity, the additional cores will be of benifit. Here is a benchmark report. http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Athlon_II_X4_620/10.html
    the video card is the same (4670) but it has a lifetime warranty.


    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103706
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128376
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231166
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139008
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150450&cm_re=hd_4670-_-14-150-450-_-Product
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148395
     
  3. smellyfo27

    smellyfo27 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    i was wondering if i could just use my current hard drive. its like 120GB i dont need ne thing big though bc i dont save alot of stuff on my computer. will it affect the preformance? im not sure what type of hard drive it its or the rpm of it.
     
  4. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,909   +91

    you can, the MB recommended by Rit and the one by me both have an ATA 100 interface for older drives. Keep in mind that you will not be able to just plug it in and go, you will have to reinstall your OS or do a system repair.
     
  5. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,377   +127

    Most likely a format is your best option, keep in mind you will need an OS too.

    You could go with a 512MB 4670, but that costs about the same price.
     
  6. smellyfo27

    smellyfo27 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    if i use the the G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 can i also use it with my 1gb pc 3200 DDRDT? like if i use them both to gether will it work fine or is that bad?

    also would a 512MB 4670 be better?
     
  7. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,377   +127

    Its bad, and i've never heard of DDRDT, which means it probably won't even fit. 4 gigs is PLENTY enough, and RAM runs as fast as the slowest module, slowing down your brand new RAM a lot.

    Well, there would be very minor differences between the 1gb and the 512, but the 512 is generally cheaper. If you find the 512's and 1gb are the same price, you may as well get the 1gb though.
     
  8. smellyfo27

    smellyfo27 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    k thanks kitty :) i think i have just one more question. can i just wait to get the graphics card? i have one now and its a sparkle GeForce 9400GT PCI but im not playing a game that has amazing graphics yet. im just playing flyff atm. im wondering if i can just use my card now and maybe wait to get the radeon or do you guys like highly recommend i get it now
     
  9. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,377   +127

    Sure if you want, your motherboard does have 2 PCI slots, so it will fit and work fine.
    The only thing you need to remember is to uninstall your NVidia drivers before throwing in the ATI card if you should decided to get it later.
     
  10. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    @ red: Any reason why the Gigabayte GA-MA 770 UD3 (being more expensive) would be a better choice over the MSI 785GTM-E45? Reliability? Would like to know as I'm building a few cheap machines keeping the MSI in mind.
     
  11. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,909   +91

    nothing huge Rit, Gigabyte is known for having the most rigid of manufacturing standards, more copper in their PCB's and slightly better cooling (NB most notably) I really like the MSI boards as well. just an alternate build to consider using the Athlon X4 :)
     
     
  12. Ritwik7

    Ritwik7 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,288   +7

    Ok. Thanks. So I'll stick with the MSI for some of the office builds I've been asked to assemble. :)
     
  13. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,364   +9

    in my personal opinion i would get the 4670 over using a pci 9400 card the 4670 is a lot better card but i like the rest of the build and there is absolutely no reason to buy a 1gb version of a 4670 you wont even be able to run games at the resolution you would have to play at for 1gb to be useful.
     
  14. smellyfo27

    smellyfo27 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    can i get the CORSAIR XMS3 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory instead of the G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory? like, would it be better? right now its currently cheaper and it is ddr3. would that work well with my mobo which is GIGABYTE GA-MA770-UD3 AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD
     
  15. hellokitty[hk]

    hellokitty[hk] Hello, nice to meet you! Posts: 4,377   +127

    No it won't support DDR3.
     
  16. smellyfo27

    smellyfo27 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    hello again. um im not quite sure how to say this but, i have a DVD rom and a CD burner. neither of the cords are SATA. i guess its the older type of cord (im not sure what its called though) i was wondering if theres some type of adapter or something i can put on the cord to make it SATA. the GIGABYTE mobo i have now only supports SATA drives i guess. if i cant get some sort of adapter for it can you please tell me a good cheap burner and DVD player?

    thanks in advance


    edit: i think the cord im thinking about is called an ATA or IDE (im not sure about this though)
     
  17. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 8,484   +233

    Is your Gigabyte motherboard GA-MA770-UD3, the one you posted previously in this thread? If so, it does support IDE drives. It has one connector that will support two IDE devices. It's the green one. If it is some other board, tell us what it is please.

    There are IDE to SATA adapters if push comes to shove.
     
  18. smellyfo27

    smellyfo27 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    yeah its the mobo previously posted. how can i connect two IDE cables to the green connecter? i need to hook up my hard drive, DVD drive and burner drive. i know i can i know i can hook the DVD and burner on one cable so that leaves me with that and the Hard drive
     
  19. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 8,484   +233

    That green IDE connector only supports two devices. You can only hook up two IDE devices on one cable to that one IDE connector on the motherboard. If you have three IDE devices, you will have to install a PCI card with an IDE connector or use an IDE to SATA adapter or replace an IDE device with a SATA one.
     
  20. smellyfo27

    smellyfo27 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    Would i be able to hook my burner and hard drive up on the same cable? i dont think i need the DVD drive?
     
  21. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 8,484   +233

    Yes. Just make sure you set the jumpers appropriately.
     
  22. smellyfo27

    smellyfo27 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    How do i make sure lol. at this point im plugin it in like randomly
     
  23. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 8,484   +233

    If you do it randomly, you risk one or both not working. Start by setting the hard drive as master and the optical drive as slave. If that gives you trouble, try setting them both to cable select.
     
  24. smellyfo27

    smellyfo27 TS Rookie Topic Starter

    hey would there be a noticeable difference if i got the AMD Phenom 9650 2.3GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 2MB L3 Cache Socket AM2+ 95W Quad-Core Processor VS the AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core previously recommended to me in this thread? and will the other processer be compatible with my mobo?
     
  25. mailpup

    mailpup TS Special Forces Posts: 8,484   +233

    I don't know how much difference you'll notice but the Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core would be better overall, I think.
     
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