Computer restarts out of the blue

[Leeky]

Ok, so everything that's on the owner account should be on the limited account i just need to find them and create the shortcuts?

Yes they should be. The software will have been installed on your primary (C hard disk, so should also be available from your start menu as well.

If they aren't, then you can find them by using the above method from Archean, via the programs folder.

 

[jckinnick]

Yes they should be. The software will have been installed on your primary (C hard disk, so should also be available from your start menu as well.

If they aren't, then you can find them by using the above method from Archean, via the programs folder.

What about when i try to use a program thats already there but it says something about the administrator account do i need to log into the owner account and then switch over the limited one first?

 

[Leeky]

What about when i try to use a program thats already there but it says something about the administrator account do i need to log into the owner account and then switch over the limited one first?

No, if it needs admin rights I would imagine you just need to provide your admin credientals in order to run the program as an admin user. e.g. your admin account username and password.

Most software should run absolutely fine without admin rights elevation though.

 

[Archean]

In addition to my previous post, there is another method to create all shortcuts, which is slightly more complicated by is the one I use generally.

1. Login using your Administrator Account
2. Click on Start
3. Right Click on All Programs and select Open All Users
4. Click on Start again, and Right Click on All Programs, then select Open
5. Notice that in the address bar it will say C:\Documents and Settings\You Admin Account Name\Start Menu\Programs for the administrator account, and All Users in the other window we opened.
6. Now browse in the Administrator Account windows Programs folder, and select whichever shortcuts you want to copy
7. Browse in to Programs folder of All Users, then copy the selected program shortcuts into it.

Repeat the process described above for as many times as you need, or until you are done copying the shortcuts.

That should solve this issue permanently, i.e. even if you create a new user account the shortcuts will be available to that account as well. Goodluck and Regards.

 

[jckinnick]

In addition to my previous post, there is another method to create all shortcuts, which is slightly more complicated by is the one I use generally.

1. Login using your Administrator Account
2. Click on Start
3. Right Click on All Programs and select Open All Users
4. Click on Start again, and Right Click on All Programs, then select Open
5. Notice that in the address bar it will say C:\Documents and Settings\You Admin Account Name\Start Menu\Programs for the administrator account, and All Users in the other window we opened.
6. Now browse in the Administrator Account windows Programs folder, and select whichever shortcuts you want to copy
7. Browse in to Programs folder of All Users, then copy the selected program shortcuts into it.

Repeat the process described above for as many times as you need, or until you are done copying the shortcuts.

That should solve this issue permanently, i.e. even if you create a new user account the shortcuts will be available to that account as well. Goodluck and Regards.

I went in the C Drive like you said and found most of them but i still don't see Google Chrome anywhere, i found everything Google but Chrome. Im going to try your other method and see if i can find it that way.

Also i was wondering if the the things i do like adding programs in the owner account effect the limited account but if adding programs in the limited account doesn't effect the owner account, if that makes sense? Like say the owner account will effect the limited but the limited account wont effect the owner account.

 

[jckinnick]

No, if it needs admin rights I would imagine you just need to provide your admin credientals in order to run the program as an admin user. e.g. your admin account username and password.

Most software should run absolutely fine without admin rights elevation though.

When it says something about administration rights it doesn't ask for a password or anything though it just says something like "need administration rights" when i try to run certain programs. So do i just switch user accounts? How do i provide credentials?

 

[Archean]

I may be wrong, but doesn't XP also provides 'Run as Administrator in right click context menu? if so you can provide user name and password with administrator rights there to launch any program you want.

Well some say I have an irrational hatred for Google Chrome, but really I don't so frankly I haven't bothered about it since its sudden existence few years ago, hence, I am no good at when it comes to advising about chrome related issues, I think Leeky may be able to help you on this one.

 

[jckinnick]

I may be wrong, but doesn't XP also provides 'Run as Administrator in right click context menu? if so you can provide user name and password with administrator rights there to launch any program you want.

Well some say I have an irrational hatred for Google Chrome, but really I don't so frankly I haven't bothered about it since its sudden existence few years ago, hence, I am no good at when it comes to advising about chrome related issues, I think Leeky may be able to help you on this one.

Not sure where the right click context menu is.

 

[Archean]

No problem ..... right click with your mouse on the program (shortcut) you want to run with Administrator Account, then in the appearing menu you should be able to see 'Run as.....', select it, another box will appear containing two options, i.e. Current User, and The following User, in the later type your Administrator User Account, and in password box type your password.

 

[jckinnick]

No problem ..... right click with your mouse on the program (shortcut) you want to run with Administrator Account, then in the appearing menu you should be able to see 'Run as.....', select it, another box will appear containing two options, i.e. Current User, and The following User, in the later type your Administrator User Account, and in password box type your password.

Ok that worked but that doesnt defeat the purpose of using a limited account does it?

 

[Archean]

Only for as long as you are using a specific program with it (i.e. with administrator account), once you close that software admin rights are no longer available.

 

[jckinnick]

In addition to my previous post, there is another method to create all shortcuts, which is slightly more complicated by is the one I use generally.

1. Login using your Administrator Account
2. Click on Start
3. Right Click on All Programs and select Open All Users
4. Click on Start again, and Right Click on All Programs, then select Open
5. Notice that in the address bar it will say C:\Documents and Settings\You Admin Account Name\Start Menu\Programs for the administrator account, and All Users in the other window we opened.
6. Now browse in the Administrator Account windows Programs folder, and select whichever shortcuts you want to copy
7. Browse in to Programs folder of All Users, then copy the selected program shortcuts into it.

Repeat the process described above for as many times as you need, or until you are done copying the shortcuts.

That should solve this issue permanently, i.e. even if you create a new user account the shortcuts will be available to that account as well. Goodluck and Regards.

How do i log into the administrator account from the limited one, or do you mean on start up log into the administrator and then switch to limited? Also i don't see open all users when i right click on all programs.

 

[Archean]

For this you need to log in from administrator account, then go through the procedure I suggested, and log off to use limited user account.

You will only see 'Open All Users' with Administrator Account.

 

[jckinnick]

For this you need to log in from administrator account, then go through the procedure I suggested, and log off to use limited user account.

You will only see 'Open All Users' with Administrator Account.

So log in with administrator log out and then log into the limited account?


Never mind i figured it out and pretty much have my limited account mirrored to my other one now. I installed Google but when i try to check for an update it says error 3. The Google site says error 3 could be 2 things.



Error 3 is a failure to communicate with Google Update. There are two known reasons for this:

1. You're running Vista and you have configured Google Chrome to always run as administrator.

This is a known issue with the Google Chrome auto-updating mechanism and can be avoided by simply running Google Chrome as a normal user. Additionally, keep in mind that for security reasons we recommend that you don't elevate the privilege of Google Chrome to administrator.
2. Google Update isn't registered properly.

To fix this, verify that GoogleUpdate.exe exists in the location specified in the Windows Registry Editor.

The instructions below involve viewing your registry. If you're uncomfortable or unfamiliar with this, you may want to consult your local computer guru before following these steps.
1. Go to the Start menu > Run.
2. Enter regedit.
3. Click OK. The Registry Editor should appear.
4. In the tree view on the left, navigate to the following directory:

HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{2F0E2680-9FF5-43C0-B76E-114A56E93598}\LocalServer32
5. The "Default" value should correspond to the location of your GoogleUpdate.exe file. Verify that GoogleUpdate.exe exists at the given path.
* If GoogleUpdate.exe doesn't exist in this location, try uninstalling and reinstalling Google Chrome.
* If GoogleUpdate.exe exists at a different location, right-click the 'Default' value and select Modify. Enter the correct file path and make sure you use double-quotation marks, e.g. "C:\Documents and Settings\%USERNAME%\Local Settings\Application Data\Google\Update\GoogleUpdate.exe"




I looked in my registry and i don't have the key they are showing. Also one of my other browsers that i use called Flock has the check for updates grayed out is that usual for a limited account?

 

[Archean]

Yes log in with administrator account, copy all shortcuts as I described above, then log out; and log in with limited user account.

 

[jckinnick]

I keep it pretty clean i, i did put an air duster in there the other day since it was mentioned. I haven't taken it apart in awhile though. I have been keeping it on overnight to run scans lately around the time the reboots started happening would that cause it to overheat? I usually turn it off after a scan but since my security program updated the latest versions scans take longer than they use to so i just let it finish scanning and leave it on overnight until its done.

 

[jckinnick]

When i put it in stand by the browser i use called Flock crashes every time when i start it back up. Could this be where the registry problem is at, would uninstalling and reinstalling fix the registry problem?

 

[Archean]

Before doing that perhaps you can try CCleaner, you can download it from Techspot's download section, and clean out your system's registry.

 

[jckinnick]

Before doing that perhaps you can try CCleaner, you can download it from Techspot's download section, and clean out your system's registry.

I have CCleaner already installed and use it everyday.

 

[Archean]

Fair enough, even if you uninstall Flock, some registry values/entries will remain, in such situations it is best to erase them manually. Please do remember it is bit tricky for a user who is not comfortable working with registry editor. Please have a look at this article about backing up registry, before venturing into this.

 

[jckinnick]

I have Revo Uninstaller that removes all traces even in the registry. Do you think that would do the trick?

 

[jckinnick]

Do you know anything about using Google Chrome with a limited account. I have ran it "as administrator" and i get an error message when i try to check for updates. I have also tried to run the Google Updater program "as administrator" and it says something about that the program will not allow "running as administrator" with a limited account do you think this could also be why Chrome is getting an error message when checking for updates?

 

[Archean]

I think Revo should serve you ok in this respect.

No, sorry I have no idea, I never liked chrome hence I never really bothered about it.

Anyway, general rule of the thumb is if you run something 'As Administrator' it should be able to update etc. May be this is some sort of software specific issue, i.e. in this case with chrome.

 

[jckinnick]

I got it fixed apparently Google Chrome installed separately is not a multi user browser i had to install it through the updater in order for it to be multi user.

 

[Archean]

That is weird, oh well, thank you for the update though. Regards