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Computer Won't Turn On *Laptop*

By Luda-Chris
Mar 4, 2006
  1. Luda-Chris

    Luda-Chris TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 20

    Ok its not an ic. These things are about the size of a dime and are about 1/2 an inch tall. I'll try and see if I can come up off of some copper wire and maybe "Borrow" a battery from the Gateway computers. Then if it will charge that would be great. Hopefully it works. it should work right? Both batteries put out the same 14.8v of power and have the same female parts. I'll test it out and see what I can come up with. Hopefully it works so I can use it.

    Also I have a Laptop that a guy doesn't use. It's all broken up and messed up because he tried to take it apart, but obviously didn't know what he's doing. If I take the HD out of it and put my HD into it will it work? Will I have all my data or is there more that I have to do?
     
  2. kirock

    kirock TS Rookie Posts: 1,598

    If both batteries are 14.8V then you're safe to use the Gateway one once you jumper it in correctly. Just keep all contacts in the same order (the way they would fit together it they could physically touch).

    No your HDD won't boot on the second Laptop not without a Windows repair. Why would you want to if the other LT is in such bad condition, it could even damage your HDD? A Windows repair requires the installation CD, you must change how Windows "reads" its environment. Your HDD has Windows living in an HP Pavilion Notebook with specific motherboard. When you install your HDD into the other Laptop, Windows will go "WTF?" and just hang. A repair updates all the info Windows needs to understand that it lives in another type of machine.

    I'm not sure what those dime size things are unless they're capacitors. They should look like little tin cans with 2 leads at the bottom to connect to the motherboard (mobo, MB) and would sit pretty flush to the mobo. BING! Toroidal transformer, I think that's what you're describing. I beleive that's part of the mobo clock frequency circuit. They should be ok, not likely to be damaged unless physically knocked/struck hard when opening the case.
     
  3. Liquidlen

    Liquidlen TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,646

    You should pop your HDD into a USB enclosure if you can get a hold of one where you are.
    Then pretty much any computer can read/ write ,etc. If you lose the Laptop you will be able to copy your stuff to the replacement.
     
  4. Luda-Chris

    Luda-Chris TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 20

    Alright I got a Couple of Things to add.

    1st. I have to correct what is writen on top of the D shaped things, It's:

    OR7BL
    2
    4122Q

    2nd. I couldn't find any Aligator Clips, But I did Find some Copper Wire. I think it's copper. It's from an Ethernet Cord and it's copper colored. Also I found some Paperclips with what seems like plastic cover over them. Could I paperclip the Wire to the Terminals with the plastic paperclips or do you think they'll melt? Could I do it with a Normal Paperclip? I've got everything ready I'll just wait to find out if it'll work. Hopefully I don't get impatient hehe.
     
  5. Luda-Chris

    Luda-Chris TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 20

    Well I tried the battery Idea and it didn't seem to work. I set it up right and my laptop didn't want to turn on. Also I connected two to the AC Jack to see if it was getting power from the Adaptor and it Definently is getting power. My guess now is that I have a Mobo Problem. I'm just going to have to wait a month. The Reason I want to use the Other Laptop is for a temporary replacement. Plus I got a lot of music, maybe 1600 songs, and pictures, probably 2-3k, that I want to FTP to my Xbox for safe keeping. I get Leave in the Begining of April. My "Dad" says he wants to help me get my laptop fixed so who knows, Maybe he'll pay for the repairs. If not I might have a usless Laptop. I do have one more ? though.

    How would my HDD get messed up in the other LT? It runs just fine, Only thing was the AC jack was messed up so he tried to take it apart but instead just broke his Case and his Floppy Drive. I unplugged the Floppy Drive and the Case is still broken up. I figured if it runs fine with his HDD in it than it should run fine with mine as long as i run the Repair CD Right? It makes sense to me so I'm going to try it but I'll check back here later to see what the dangers I'm looking at are. If I fry the HDD it'll kinda suk but I have most my stuff backed up on my Xbox already so I think I'll be alright.

    Thanks for the Help Liquid and Kirock. I appreciate your patients with this problem. Talk to you guys later.
     
  6. Liquidlen

    Liquidlen TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,646

    Your HDD in another laptop, Just won't work.I am not going to get into all of the different reasons why.You would have to Format the existing HDD and then re-install everything. You would lose your Files.
    Copy everything off of it like I mentioned earlier and then put it in the other laptop. It should work.
     
  7. kirock

    kirock TS Rookie Posts: 1,598

    If not quiet sure what you mean Liquidlen that putting his hdd into the other LT won't work, unless you mean it physically might not fit? If Luda-chris can connect it ok then he'd have to do a Windows repair. OK sometimes the repair procedure doesn't always work perfectly and therefore you run the risk of corrupting the OS on the original drive. There is a risk here Chris, but it has been done successfully before by many ppl.

    Liquidlen's other suggestion of mounting your HDD into a USB enclosure is a good idea too. Do you think the Dell outlet would have one? All you need to do then is upload your important files to the back-up laptop PC. I'd have that LT ready (cleaned of unneeded files to maximize space) and do it right in the store. You might need to give the staff a little "something" for their trouble. You connect the 2 via a USB connector, now just explore the 2nd LT and find the new mass storage unit, prob listed as E: or F: drive etc.

    This is a bummer, I think we all thought it was just a simple adaptor failure or battery or both, but it is looking like something more serious with the Laptop itself.

    Good luck and keep us posted. cheers.
     
  8. Liquidlen

    Liquidlen TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,646

    Kirok quote
    " If not quiet sure what you mean Liquidlen that putting his hdd into the other LT won't work, unless you mean it physically might not fit? If Luda-chris can connect it ok then he'd have to do a Windows repair. OK sometimes the repair procedure doesn't always work perfectly and therefore you run the risk of corrupting the OS on the original drive. There is a risk here Chris, but it has been done successfully before by many ppl."

    Laptops are not like Desktops .. Taking a HDD with a loaded O/S from machine 1 and putting into Machine 2 Will not boot if there is any difference in the hardware between the two machines.
    I have heard of guys doing this but it is a lot of work.
    In a desktop You can attach the 1st HDD to the 2nd machine as a slave and then read/copy data
    LT don't offer you a slave connection ordinarily ,but the USB will do that same thing.
    LT's have a different configuration on the HDD .There is a small Fat16 partition that has a Bios setup Application .In it will be identifiers that check diiferent Hardware etc .This a proprietary protection system that Manufacturers use.
    I could pretty much garrantee that A HDD from 1 LT to another Company's LTwill not boot. A windows repair would not help in that situation .
    You would have to wipe the drive clean and install all of the drivers ,Setup programs etc for the #2 machine.
     
  9. kirock

    kirock TS Rookie Posts: 1,598

    Ok, thanks Liquidlen for the clarification, I've done it on 2 of desktops before and it was no big deal. I didn't realize LT had such proprietary protection built into their HDD, makes sense.
     
  10. laptopfx

    laptopfx TS Rookie

    Broken Laptops and solutions

    I see this thread is old, but still; You should try a reset button on that Pavillion; If not it could be a DC jack;

    For more information on disassembly, repairing, diagnosing laptop problems like no power no start won't turn on , visit laptopwontturnon at

    http://www.laptopwontturnon.com ;

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  11. chriss4365

    chriss4365 TS Rookie

    Computer wont start.

    I have a similair problem with my gateway ml6703 notebook. It worked fine and i turned it off. When i tried to turn it on it wasnt getting any power at all. The battery is fully charged and wouldnt work with it or the power cord. What could be the problem, laptops dont have fuses do they?
     
     
  12. kirock

    kirock TS Rookie Posts: 1,598

    You are best to open your own thread, but in the mean time...remove the battery and try it with just the adapter. If that doesn't work, it could be anything. Your question is like; "My TV is plugged in but won't turn on...what could it be?" Answer: oh one or more of about 10,000 components are dead.
     
  13. chriss4365

    chriss4365 TS Rookie

    I dont know how to start a new thread.
     
  14. nickc

    nickc TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,648

    go to the top of this forum, and click "Start a new thread" then state things complete with all details.
     
  15. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

  16. Tedster

    Tedster Techspot old timer..... Posts: 10,074   +13

    read the guide for newcomers.

    It is simple to start a new thread - just click "new thread" in the CORRECT and APPROPRIATE forum. Read all guides in the guides forum and the FAQs before posting. Most questions are already answered there.
     
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