Congress mulls prison terms for KaZaA users

mp3's suck!

Try burning a CD from mp3s and the playing it on your HiFi, the sound quality just doesn't compare to an original CD.

If I like something, then I will buy the original CD, though I sometimes listen to a few mp3s first, to see if the album is worth buying.

If I like the album, then I will buy it, but only if it costs less than £12.00, and that's only if I REALLY like it. The record industry really needs to take a look at its pricing policy, as this is the main reason that I only buy older CDs (when the price has dropped below £10.00). Unless they do this, they will continue to lose sales (I haven't bought a music CD for about 3 years now, though I have received them as gifts). When the economy is in a downturn, even consumers have to think carefully about how much things cost.

I can honestly say that I have only about two dozen mp3s, and I don't generally bother with them, so fines and imprisonment wouldn't affect me (besides, I live in the UK).

Because the RIAA are owned by the record companies, they will likely have to justify their existance by results. This is most likely the reasons for resorting to extreme measures, as so far nothing has worked.

I don't know about mp3s sucking.... not too much.

Well encoded ones sound good if you have good equipment and the track has been encoded at a decent kbps.




But the point is that trading some music tracks on the internet is not something you should be going to jail for, and sharing a cell with someone who axed his mother.

If you remove the high tech angle, and look at it like this:-

I recorded a mix tape for my g/f. I was caught by the cops and sent to jail for 3 months.

Jeez.... Listen to how INSANE it sounds!

Nothing ever will.

I remember hearing on the news that this 15 year old boy raped an 87 year old woman.

Why aren't we pumping millions of $$$ into stopping that?

Why aren't we having expensive lawyers talk about what we do to stop that?

Sometimes I feel like the whole world has its priorities wrong. This whole RIAA saga will be the subject of much future hilarity in decades to come, methinks.

Phant, do someone win f*ing money from stopping that ? NO

that's why they don't to anything

That's what's wrong with the world - that people do things for money, not because its the right thing to do.

Downloading mp3s is the 21st century version of listening to music on the radio.

Are we going to send people to jail for listening to the radio? Or even for taping songs from the radio? Get things in perspective here.

This week, I saw a man in a job center who had put himself in a wheel chair because he has been injecting drugs into veins in his legs until they died and his legs rotted and had to be amputated off....

....Is it just me, or shouldn't we as a society be more interested in stopping that, than in someone listening to some good tunes?

Damn son, your living in the old age. Come to the 21st centry, we have MP3 players! Yes, 256MBs (or 128MBs for that matter) can hold more then 15 MP3s at cd quailty. 64MBs can hold about 12 at cd quailty (128kbps).

the quality of mp3's depends on many factors, encoder, bit rate, encodering type. Ive tried most if not all. At the moment ive stuck will the lattest lame encoder using 256kb/s VBR (alt preset command) and it sounds great on my IPOD.

This is simply ridiculous. Doesn't the Congress has other better things to do? Like cleaning up the streets, helping out the poor and homeless and etc. Arresting kazaa users = arresting half the population i believe thus overcrowding prison cells.

What a coincidence, I have just discovered from the papers that the download of mp3s is illegal in Australia but almost everyone is doing it. Well anyway, i agree that CDs are way priced higher than what they should be. I have just got a CD for first time in a very long time because they are on sale now not that expensive as they are use too. They goin cheap now around $12 to $13...so i m planning to get a few more (good ones offcourse) i the next few months. Down here one CD would cost $20 or more. All i know is that the local RIA is there to earn money. If only they could lower the CD price...i m pretty sure there will be a sudden surge in CD-sales. All CDs sold here are made in a way that they can be copied directly into a CD-R.

RIA stop thinking that p2p softwares are the main cause of decline in sales. We all you know you are after money...this case aint worthwhile to fight for, ya most probably end up losing money. Stop before its too late.

If you download the correct quality MP3 then the sound will actually surpass CD quality. CD quality is actually kind of low.

Although your CD player may not be capable of playing but a certain quality of MP3, actually reducing it to a bit lower than it is when you actually hear it. Also if your playing the MP3 on your PC I believe it depends on the sound card, and speakers that you have and what they are capable of playing.

A 192kbps MP3 is pretty much beyond CD quality, and is VERY common. It is no problem to get a 192kbps mp3. 192kbps is what I recommend. I am a musician and all demos that I record are in 192kbps.

If you've had problems with low quality MP3's then it is because you *downloaded* a low quality mp3. Just pay attention to the quality.

Q. I know that higher bit rates produce better sound quality in MP3 files. What bit rate will yield something close to CD sound quality without taking up vast amounts of hard-drive space?

A. Opinions vary among audiophiles, but many consider the 128 kilobits-per-second bit rate for converting music into the MP3 format to be "CD quality."

The 128-kbps rate generally creates MP3 files that take up one megabyte of space per minute of music. So a CD recording of the allegro movement of "Eine Kleine Nachtmusik" by Mozart lasting 5 minutes and 26 seconds will take up around five megabytes of hard drive space when encoded as an MP3 file at 128 kbps.

A rate of 160 kbps provides better sound quality, but the resulting MP3 file takes up about 1.5 megabytes per minute of music. The 96 kbps rate, described as "near CD quality" by some audio experts, produces an MP3 file that takes up only 700 kilobytes of space per minute of music.

taken from: http://www.jsonline.com/bym/tech/news/nov02/93072.asp




And yes, the RIAA is wasting money hiring employees to work for them. Unless they are actually suing enough people and actually GETTING PAID by those people.

If the RIAA was successfull in the fact that they sue enough people, they literally have OVER 3.5 million Kazaa users that they could sue, so you think about that. $10,000 per Kazaa user is a lot of money. (Thats if they sued all 3.5 million).

As far as being successfull in stopping MP3/music shares, they will never ever ever succeed. There are too many ways to share MP3's which the RIAA has no control over. To control this would be to eliminate the Internet period as Phant has said.

Before Napster, and Kazaa, and all other P2P programs MP3's were shared, as sort of an "underground" operation on networks such as IRC (which is you think about how large IRC networks are, there are much much more than 3.5 million people using IRC), personal FTP servers, from friend to friend, etc.

Napster only made it easier to do and paved the way for other P2P's such as Kazaa.

RIAA I have one thing to say to you. It is this. Mess with the best die like the rest.

I agree with much you said Acid.

On my MP3 player, I dont know if its the player or headphones, but 128kbps sounds REALLY good! Much better then cd quailty.

Going a title off topic, aren't we?

But I guess there is not much else you can do with the headline post.

Get angry at how stupid and backward looking RIAA are, get more angry, get over it and hope it all goes away.

I think it will all go away. I really do.

When I realized we we're getting off topic as I posted, I thought what the heck, as I realized what you said above. Just get more angry.....no point in that. I hope your right, and it does all go away.

Thats the good thing about topics, they always lead to another topic, thus making more discussion. It gives us all something to talk about so the forum doesn't get boring

i started with napster

i download about 50 songs, simultaneously...........currently about 10,000 burned to disk, in data format...........i'm using the kazaa vacumn for everything plausible, and, sort out the junk.....currently focusing in on dvd's.......i've considered the outcome of these scenario's...........so, just make hay while the sun shines............if they shut me down tomorrow, no skin off.........i have a lifetime of digital treasure :grinthumb

Nice JSR!

(btw, what is that, your 2nd avatar today :rolleyes: )

And your exactly right acid, about one topic leading to another Nice isnt it.

lara was for you, and, this is for phant

:grinthumb

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/31833.html

boy, phant

i'm gettin' close to becoming a criminal