Congress mulls prison terms for KaZaA users

Re: boy, phant

And you strike me as precisely the sort of one who will be caught. I hope you like getting married to your new wife, Bruno. I am sure you will have many happy nights together in your cell discussing how he once chopped his wife and kids up because he didn't like how his dinner had been cooked.

Hmm sounds like an odd thing for a musicians rights accosiation to say but hey these are the crazy times we are living in.

not, bruno

.......phant, you should know then........how he likes his chicken :grinthumb

if everyone keeps downloading as much as they always have the riaa will fail

You'd think California of all places would ACCEPT MP3 SHARING.

Downloading music for FREE against the wishes of artist/record label is obviously wrong on some level... Surely no one can argue this? The music was never intended to be free and should not be freely distributed no more than retail software etc... It's common sense.

Despite this, I believe it is the music industry's fault for not embracing digital distribution. Instead they try to stamp it out like some big dumb animal scared of a simple, clever idea. It's the fault of their failing business model and they need to adapt to it.

I honestly cannot support sharing copyrighted music as 100% legal, but it is something that is not going away and the RIAA is too stupid and slow to work with it... Or even around it.

Yes, I copy music and I blatantly admit I do this instead of buying CDs. And I am sure there are many, many others out there that do this as well. 7281 mp3s and counting....

As many have said already, if stores such as SoundShop (which went out of business months ago) weren't charging $18 per CD then people would not be so apt to download music illegaly. Just like you said Rick, it is their own fault's.

Yea, I wasn't really saying everyone would buy CD's if the prices were lowered, just that people would be much much more apt to.

I know a lot of people like the idea of getting the nice little cover design with the CD. Plus the CD is also already recorded in the correct order + any "secret" tracks. Those aren't exactly thing's worth spending cash on, but we all like eye candy compared to blank CD covers so I think in some really small way that to would make some people consider paying for a CD as compared the hassle of sometimes going in and trying to download MP3's. 95% of the time it's a very simple process (especially for people like you and me), but for someone that isn't computer literate it can be very time consuming.

It is kind of like how company's set prices like $29.95 or $9.99.
The basis behind this is that we see $9.99, which looks much better to us than $10.00. It is a sort of marketing psychology. If something is priced at $9.99 we are much more likely to buy it than if it is $10.00. So in sort of the same way, a nice looking CD cover would also help CD sales.

Coming from someone who deals with customers every day that can't even figure out how to double click or locate a single icon on their desktop. And the fact is the majority of the public isn't computer literate so, if CD prices were decreased to a reasonable amount then the recording industry would be able to make a decent amount of profit off of CD sales.

Though never again will they make the millions upon millions that they are used to making, in turn giving the bands pennies and ripping them off. Unless somehow they eliminate most of the P2P networks and put us all back to where we started with using IRC, webpages, and other means to get our MP3's.

Listen, there's no way it will be stopped as long as the internet stays. There will always be a way. They cannot stop us all but they can limit the majority of us.

They cannot stop us as long as the internet stays. There will always be that 'nerd' (no offense to anyone) that will discover or crack a new way putting a good handfull of many people back into file sharing.

Yes, I agree with Rick. Music downloading is completely illegal, we all know it, and we can't argue that fact.

But-- go to the store, walk around, find a CD, pay the price, go back home, etc.--- or open Kazaa on your computer and download? Money and time are big issues here, we're always looking for shortcuts. Who'd rather waste alot of time at the store and pay on top of that when music can be obtained for free and at the simplist click of a button?

Like i've said before, here, this will be the cause of a huge riot, uprisings and civil battles or even World War 3.

The world is inevitably doomed, we cannot stop it, time is our enemy once again. We are victims of our own technology, we have soared too high, we will take a grand fall. Humanity's fall can be postponed at the termination of the internet--yet, there's no stopping, we will be doomed--again, it is only a matter of time.

Take some time to think about this, and imagine what would happen for the prosecution of every simple person who knows not much about computers but downloads a few songs.

This is all boiling under the lid of a pot and is all ready to explode. Time is our enemy and humanity has its own enemy now--itself.

No offence taken. I'm proud to be one.

Although, I prefer the term "Geek" myself....

No need to thank me when you go...

"Hey, OMFG, that guy... yeah XtR-X or whatever said that this would happen! Ahhhhhh!"

Yes, actually, think about, well of people, who would never harm a fly and yet download music get imprisoned. What's the world to see or think? "Imprisonment for innocent people that download music? Let's fight them! This will not go on!"

Can I remind you all of the example of the Halocaust? Looks like were Germany now, no offense to any Germans or Germany, it's a wonderful place and I've been there, half my family is from there. No, I'm not being racist-- before you jump to conclusions.

Just imagine. I'm a good kid myself. I'd never hurt a fly unless it hurt me... for say. The only thing I do is I download tons of files yeah well you know what kind and I like to speed like 40mph over the speed limit in my b-e-a-u-t-iful car.

Ok, that paragraph above was a little happy, lets jump to serious mode. Think about it!

What's the world to come to when people innocent in real life are imprisoned?

OK, reality check, everyone!

they get

the bruno............hehe and, by the way x.......i just didn't have the heart to show you the pictures of my 5 series bmr, not to mention a few other noteworthy additions to my automobile stable............so, you'd better clam up about that....beautiful car, or i am goin' to give you a reality check:grinthumb

If they wona start a war we will give them a war, i know alot of people in the right places to make somin happen, so the RIAA better watch it cus its gona be us againt them or in LAYMANS terms THE CONSUMERS AGAINT THE COMPANY and off coarse the consumer will win every time !!!!!

Like I've said in my other topic about the TCPA, I will be apart of the riot/war/uprising if the time were to come.

what ever its called, we are gona kck their ***'s

Now you are both just being silly.

I feel annoyed about this to, but lets confine our discussions to reality, please.