Conspiracy to delay the Electric Car?

what the ratio for power transfer
in locamotive trains
diesel to AC high freq veri drives or standard PWM Dc sync drives
who needs speed
I would be happy to see gas cut by 80%
if you can get hyd from space I would use that , oops cost to much again to get and deliver
I wonder how much untapped power there is in the solar winds
maybe we can build a device to capture
of course thats outside the mag field of earth
so for now I'll stick to pedal power and shoe leather
maybe we should go back to the horse we may have to in a n'other 100 yrs or so

and knitting and knitting and knitting

CBC Radio One 8:30 am Friday July 14th/06 on **The Current**

Who Killed the Electric Car ?– Film Director
No gas, no oil, no tune-ups, no problems. It's the story of the EV-1, General Motor's ill-fated electric car.The EV-1 cruised the California roads in 1990, when 800 of the cars were leased to customers eager to drive a zero-emission automobile.
But despite rave reviews from the few who drove it, GM shut down the production line in 2003 and recalled every single one of them. Most of the fleet was shredded, crushing consumers' hopes that the electric car was here to stay.

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You could only lease the car, never buy it.. Every last car was re-claimed by GM.. Drivers loved it, yet GM claimed only 800 were in use and demand was too low to warrant production. I think they saw it would eclipse all other auto products and snuffed it out before it could be discovered by the public
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One of its fans was filmmaker Chris Paine, who was once a proud driver of an EV-1. And now, the story of why General Motors decided to short-circuit the production of the electric car is what powers his documentary, appropriately titled, Who Killed the Electric Car? We reached Chris Paine by telephone in Los Angeles, California.

GM Response
While there may be plenty of blame to go around in Chris Paine's documentary, in the end, it was General Motors's decision to discontinue production of the EV-1 electric car.
To find out why, we contacted Dave Barthmuss. He's the manager for public policy, environment and energy for General Motors North America, and he was also in California.

http://www.cbc.ca/thecurrent/2006/200607/20060714.html

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EDIT: Here's the direct link to the stream if anybody want's to listen... - Spike

Who killed the electric car?

You could only lease the car, never buy it.. Every last car was re-claimed by GM.. Drivers loved it, yet GM claimed only 800 were in use and demand was too low to warrant production.

I think they saw it would eclipse all other auto products and snuffed it out before it could be discovered by the public.

Excellent coverage , well beyond my humble ability can be enjoyed at;
The Huffington Post

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Just google **The HuffingtonPost** and scroll down some.

The HTML href= does not function as I am still a greenhorn so far.

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Edit: Just use the vB tag. as in the example below (i... here and I want an EV-1 now! =TG

omg... there is more spam in this thread than there is in a grocery store!

i do agree tony, whatever makes them less money in the end.. will not prevail

No, they'll just make crumy, plastic parts that fail after 20,001 miles, just after your 20,000 mile warranty. So you'll continue to buy thousands in parts every year.

That's the way to do it. Just make an awesome car, with crumy parts. Create the virus and infect people so they will come back and buy your cure.

that's the "corporate american" way :haha:

I thought that was just the corporate pharmaceutical way. (or am I thinking of the FDA?)

you're right spike, it is... but it works the same way

[OFF-TOPIC] the FDA doesn't create the viruses, they just make it illegal to patent (and in some cases even sell) a potential cure for one. it would seem that they only allow you to call it a drug if it causes more health problems than it treats :haha: [/OFF-TOPIC]

Finally found the photo of the Elegant GM EV-1 electric car on my site now:
http://TonyGuitar.blogspot.com

and a link to the movie and more shots. = TG

Electric cars are slow and brokeback mountain. They can't even travel a decent amount without needing to recharge. The reason few if any manufactures are developing the electric car is because it's not practical compared to other alternative fuel sources like hydrogen, ethanal, and natural gas.

I would rather kill myself than drive that EV-1.

Why don't they just build some kind of propulsion system under roads? Then all you need is a box on 4 wheels with breaks. The road will pull you along.

Maybe they should just build all roads downhill? Then we can just cruise around.

How about harnessing the kinetic engery of angry people?

Why don't we just send a thousand and 1 nukes over iran/iraq, to wipe out all people, and then just claim the country ours? All the free oil we want!

Maybe we could all live in tightly packed mini-suburbs where everything is within walking distance. Fill the planet with these tiny mini-cities and have a way to jetison people between them instantly?

How come we haven't invented portals yet? You could just zap yourself anywhere you need to be, and have no vehicles at all?

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No point to this. Just wondering why this thread isn't dead yet. lol

wouldnt that mean having to wait some 200 years (or whatever the half life of uranium was) for the radioactivity to die down? unless, off course someone can harness the energy from both the radiation + the oil lol..

we need more mad scientists.. and sane people with big wallets.. hang on, maybe its the other way around... Someone invent some anti gravity devices and we'll be all set.

Anyways, even if car manufacturers do start focusing on more hybrids/alternate models, the problem would be implimenting an efficient power source and power production facility that doesnt effect the surrounding environment. But then again, this world is controled by the oil companies.... to a point of influencing our governments into what they can do and what they're worth..

SNGX, Your thoughts about Nuke and Coal plants got me thinking...

We have a near unlimited supply of natural gas for generating power [ not mentioned in the MSM as in the eighties to justify higher prices], until such time as Hydogen economy of scale becomes the better cleaner choice..

Far better to have large, efficient. well managed Hydrogen plants making electric power behind chain link fencing, than to have small hydrogen cells running around in millions of vehicles.... eh?

Far better to have fossil fuel powered plants with scrubbers, [even], than millions of fossil burning engines running around spewing pollution... especially diesel rigs and busses... eh?

Not all is rosey though. Kevin 16 thinks the elecric car is whimp powered. Just the opposite is true.

I guess Kevin 16 has never ridden on an electric bus where you are pinned to the seat every time the driver leaves a stop. And that is old technology.

The problem will be designing E.D. cars so they can*t be easily modified into silent rocket cars.

I have been in a special Mazda wankle engine car when the pedal has been stomped and the power is immense and smooth, without any gear shifting... at least you only feel one steady pull that pushes you way back in the seat.

That performance is standard with modern E.D. Electric Drive.

So all is not rosey when drag racing becomes silent with no exhaust noise. They may have to install warning whistles on the hood that activate at 60 MPH and up. = TG

i don't get how you are comparing the wankle engine to the electric motor

given the choice between driving the EV-1or suicide... you would really choose suicide? lol... that's sad :haha:

Well, of course they can make an electric car that goes really fast. But the question remains: how long can it last?

And anyways, your idea of the ideal electric car will cost hundreds of thousands....