CPU problem

By skelmen4201
May 3, 2009
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  1. Okay here is the problem.

    My PC just started freezing up on me.
    I would have to shut it off by the power switch in back.(Power and reset switches non-responsive)
    If I tried to turn it on right away it wouldn't reach boot.
    But if i waited longer it would boot halfway, then stop.
    The longer I waited the longer it stood on without error.
    It kept on freezing in less time.
    Finally I went to a friend of mines house, it ran flawless for 2 days!
    I thought, "It's fixed?"
    Brought it home, froze.
    Then it just woudn't boot at all.
    I found there was no internal speaker, so i put one in.(Beep codes)
    The beep codes said CPU ERROR.
    I then took out CPU, it looked okay.

    Can anyone tell me what is wrong?
    I really don't want to buy a new one, then see it doesn't work either.

    Thank You.
  2. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,887   +84

    hi skelman,
    so it works at your friends house, but breaks again at yours?...I wonder if you are having a voltage problem at home. if you have it on a power or surge strip, try replacing it. it you have the means check the voltage at the wall if that doesn't work. Or maybe your cpu is just angry with you for spending more time with the toaster :). unless it working at your friends house is just a coincidence, that's what it sounds like. or possibly a bad electrical connection from the psu somewhere. so you might want to shut it down and go over all the connections and make sure they are secure. good luck
  3. skelmen4201

    skelmen4201 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 19

    Thank you, the PSU could be bad...
    But the surge protector worked when I tested it on another PC.
    Do you think that the PSU could be making it not boot? And also generate a faulty beep code?
  4. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,887   +84

    sure it could, what model and age is it?
  5. skelmen4201

    skelmen4201 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 19

    Allied AL-A400ATX
    Unsure what age, over one year, That I know.
  6. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,364   +9

    yeah sounds like a voltage problem make sure if you replace it to get a quality PSU. Try plugging it straight into the wall maybe the power strip is going bad.
  7. skelmen4201

    skelmen4201 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 19

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
    It Works!

    Thanks guys!
  8. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,364   +9

    what fixed it?
  9. skelmen4201

    skelmen4201 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 19

    When I switched the PSU with a spare one,(lesser quality)
    It booted up.

    I do not know if it made it to windows because it was only connected to power, key board, and mouse.

    I had to shut it down after I heard the boot, because there was no thermal paste.

    By the way do you need thermal paste, or does it just cool it more effectively?

    I have a Pentium 4 SL7PM

    Thank you.
  10. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

  11. skelmen4201

    skelmen4201 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 19

    When i put the thermal paste on it worked...

    Left it off to get the temp for the P4...

    Won't boot. with no RAM it beeps One high tone short, One low tone LONG, over again, short, short...

    Somebody please help i JUST FIXED it!

    Thank you.
     
  12. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

  13. skelmen4201

    skelmen4201 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 19

    There are no beeps...

    Also when I was in the BIOS screen I hit the switch on the PSU.

    Could this of have ruined the system?
  14. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

  15. skelmen4201

    skelmen4201 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 19

    Could this be a MoBo problem?

    Or a CPU?

    Only every once in a while will I get beeps.

    Each time I do it is always High/Low beeps with short high.

    Please help!
  16. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    The beeps messages are provided by the Motherboard, presently unknown.
    By the way is this a manufacture computer like Dell or HP or some other?

    Did you check out the Beep Codes here: The complete BIOS beep guide ?

    Have you reset Bios as per the instructions here: Tutorial: No POST (Power On Self Test) ?

    3 (possibly 4) questions (and solutions) here ;)
  17. skelmen4201

    skelmen4201 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 19

    It is a gigabyte 8s661fxm-rz.

    Anyway ifound the problem, or made a new one...

    high/low beep codes=CPU!

    Do you guys think i sould buy a new one?

    The keyboard lights up and stays lit up, like it starts but doesn't finish bios...

    The mouse too,

    With another PSU it won't boot up either...

    Tried everything i know please help...
  18. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    I'd say out of those two, it would be more likely Moobo

    But out of everything, I'd say Ram or CMOS (Bios) settings

    It is difficult when it gets to hardware, as usually people do not have spare CPUs and Ram and Motherboards lying about. But ideally this may be your next step, ie try change over Ram; Power Supply; Motherboard etc etc.

    I'm not sure if all options have been tried yet anyway
    In the No Post Tutorial, did you try Benchtesting?

    By the way, you may have discovered I wait until the user answers what I ask before replying back
    But for the moment, try the above.
  19. skelmen4201

    skelmen4201 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 19

    The benchtest failed...

    The computer powers on, the turns the fans and turns on the lights...

    Keyboard/mouse doesn't light up though...

    There is nothing on the screen.

    Even just MoBo, CPU, Speaker shows no results.

    Please Help.

    No beeps at all.

    Just fans turning...

    Sounds like CPU to me.

    Should I buy a new one?

    The MoBo are i think less money, but I can't find a seller!

    Can any one give me a low priced shopping website for a Gigabyte 661fxm-rz?
  20. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    I have had a faulty CPU fan cause strange issues
    You could unplug it for a few seconds (like under 10secs even 5secs) and turn on.

    This could still be faulty Power Supply
  21. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,887   +84

    if i missed this, my apologies, Kimsland probably covered this, but did you try clearing the cmos? and going into the bios and make sure it didnt get scrambled (ie voltages) from the psu problems and shutting off while in the bios? i have had that happen to me.
  22. skelmen4201

    skelmen4201 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 19

    I tried that, It won't boot up without a cpu fan.

    Nope the CMOS clear didn't help.

    Also the HDD light stays on...

    Sometimes the keyboard lights come on, and stay on, sometimes they don't light up.
  23. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    So it won't turn on and POST without the CPU fan either?

    And Bios reset properly

    And you followed the guide including benchtest, with everything out

    Then yes it sounds like hardware
    Normally I'd say Motherboard or Power Supply, but you may need a 2nd opinion

    Also stop replying to yourself use Edit, and note you may need to refresh the thread to see changes
  24. skelmen4201

    skelmen4201 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 19

    I hold a screw driver in between the two terminals for 30 sec.

    The same screwdriver i used for the benchtest to power on.

    The benchtest was preformed twice.

    I went down to Onboard graphics, CPU, PSU, MoBo and keyboard.

    Unsucceful.

    Thank you.
  25. kimsland

    kimsland Ex-TechSpotter Posts: 18,353

    When I have had this issue, ie nothing works!

    I remove all components from the Motherboard, blow out all dust, and then spray it with Circuit Board Cleaner (this stuff is expensive too, about $10 a can)
    Then leave to dry (as per the recommendations on the cleaner) Sometimes up to a day or two.
    Then put the CPU (and thermal greece back on)
    Put 1 stick of Ram in
    Plug in Monitor and Power (only)
    Then turn on

    Maybe fixed for $10 ;)
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