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Does anyone think there will be a Crysis 2 DX11 patch?

By yRaz
Apr 6, 2011
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  1. UPDATE 4-8-11: CRYSIS 2 DX 11 PATCH CONFIRMED, DID NOT ANNOUNCE A RELEASE DATE
    Crytek has confirmed that it will, Indeed, have a DX 11 Patch
    full story here




    I have done some looking around on the net and it is starting to look like it may not happen. An admin on the incrysis forums has made a statement saying crytek never confirmed a DX11 patch. This was after some rumors on the net saying it would come out the day after an article was posted. They have started deleting any thread talking about a DX11 patch on their forums. However, someone from crytek has tweeted saying PC gamers should "be patient." nVidia has also put crysis 2 on a list of DX11 titles made in January. To anyone who has played it, it is obviously a console port.

    Even though the graphics are better on PC, they are nowhere near where modern PC graphics are. They said it would be graphicly superior on PC. Don't get me wrong, it has alright graphics, but this is not what we expect of the crysis name or crytek. Also, the controls are an obvious console port with little thought of keyboard and mouse.

    What do you guys think, will there be a crysis dx11 patch?

    EDIT: I didn't have time before to post the links that I've found so here they are now

    Crysis 2 coming out "tomorrow"(March 28)
    http://www.thegamersblog.com/2011/03/27/crysis-2-dx11-patch-tomorrow/

    Crytek may not be releasing a patch.
    http://www.fudzilla.com/games/item/22265-no-dx11-patch-on-tap-for-crysis-2

    repost of theTwitter statement
    http://techreport.com/discussions.x/20671
    I know fudzilla isn't the most accurate website but it is correct more often than not.

    EDIT 2:
    Crysis 2 Sales numbers
    http://www.destructoid.com/crysis-2-huge-success-xbox-360-dominates-sales-197396.phtml
    xBox: 57%
    PS3: 29%
    PC: 14%

    Thank you, Relic, for some more interesting sales numbers
    http://gamrreview.vgchartz.com/sales/35001/crysis-2/

    Crysis and Crysis warhead sales numbers(page 10).
    http://www.zuse.hessen.de/mm/Konrad_Zuse_Kongress_Yerli_Final.pdf

    According to Relics post, Crysis 2 sold ~1,000,000 copies across all platforms. Crysis and Crysis Warhead sold 4.5 million copies collectively(PC only). That is Roughly 1/5th or 22% of the PC only games that came before it.
     
  2. EXCellR8

    EXCellR8 The Conservative Posts: 2,278

    personally, i don't see it being officially "patched" to DX11... one must realize that in order to use the technology a lot of resources have to be reworked like textures, shaders, and other graphics engine components. it's not as simple as tweaking a few lines of code or adding support for drivers.

    I'd say 90% chance it won't happen, at least by Crytek...
     
  3. yRaz

    yRaz TS Addict Topic Starter Posts: 982   +123

    I understand the logistics, im wondering if they are willing to put the resources into doing it. I think that crytek just hyped it and had no plans of catering to the PC from the start. Why would they deny a patch with a title known for graphics? Seems to me we've all been had.
     
  4. EXCellR8

    EXCellR8 The Conservative Posts: 2,278

    well it's obvious that the adoption on the consoles is what doomed the PC version from the start. from a marketing standpoint it was more profitable and convenient for Crytek to build the stripped console versions and then simply port the game to PC for use with DX9. it's sad to see such tactics being used but if you ask me i bet DX11 was never even in the picture. i'm sure they had a nice big meeting about it where they decided to screw PC gamers but right now the money exists in consoles because of sales. not saying what they did was right, because it's actually just greedy, but they took the low road, hyped it up, and ripped us off. period.
     
  5. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,909   +91

    I will second third and fourth what EXC said. The only reason that I think there might be a delayed DX11 patch coming is that they didn't bother to even go with DX10/10.1 on this horse**** looking game. to constantly make the selling point that it "will have the best graphics ever" is so blatantly misleading I think that they may have to come out with a DX11 fix for this, unless they have just given up on PC'ers.
     
  6. EXCellR8

    EXCellR8 The Conservative Posts: 2,278

    like i said, the profitability exists in consoles right now... like it or not. some of the only loyal developers left on PC are Blizzard, Bioware, Epic, and Valve Software. more and more ported sludge is being crapped out because of the little demand for PC games. it doesn't really make sense considering that ALL games are developed and tested on PC hardware. now i'm reading that the next STALKER is going to be console only... DO YOU BELIEVE THAT SH**!?

    as for Crysis 2, my only hope in DX11 support arises from the mod community, third party groups, or professional hackers.
     
  7. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,909   +91

    You have to be kidding!
     
  8. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,942   +726

    News to me. Last I heard STALKER2 was primarily PC (DirectX11). I was under the impression that this Q&A and the GSC faq were the most up to date public info sites (last month)...not true?
     
  9. Per Hansson

    Per Hansson TS Server Guru Posts: 1,932   +126 Staff Member

    EXCellR8; Epic a PC centric developer? Sure, in the Nineties maybe

    As for an eventual DX11 patch for Crysis, sure, maybe one will come out.
    But what are you expecting, there wont be any improvement in texture quality, that's where the issue lies.
    If they released such a patch it would be several gigabytes in size, that's just not going to happen, they don't care for the PC anymore (If they did the would have released the game with high-res textures to begin with)
    And we don't even need DX11 to get Crysis 2 good looking, Crysis 1 had textures with twice the resolution, yet it too was a DX9 game, with only a "lockout" for the "very high" graphical settings (with hacks that mode could be enabled for DX9, it was just one water effect that was truly DX10 that you where missing out on)

     
  10. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,909   +91

    I don't think you could get the 'god rays' with the hacks if memory serves.


    You have to look long and hard to see so much bullshit spewed about another product. They should have had Vince the Shamwow guy do the ads for Crysis 2.
     
  11. EXCellR8

    EXCellR8 The Conservative Posts: 2,278

    i sure hope it's still relevant because that would just straight up suck.

    as for Epic, they may not be PC-only dev anymore, but when they release a title on PC it's most always solid and they tend to keep their promises. also, there are a TON of games that use the Unreal Engine which is of course tied to them as well, and it's def one of the most robust, stable and accessible game engines available for PC games.
     
     
  12. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,942   +726

    Vince does have SOME standards you know....I don't know if he would jeopardise his career by fronting for Cry2
     
  13. yRaz

    yRaz TS Addict Topic Starter Posts: 982   +123

  14. Relic

    Relic TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,392   +16

    If they ever do come out with a DX11 patch, I highly doubt it'll be what most of us really want. Crytek made it pretty clear with the release of Crysis 2 that their main focus was on the 360. They left out so many important features for the PC, that there is no way this wasn't done deliberately.

    Seen those figures as well last week, and I believe they are estimated figures from the UK. I haven't really found any other solid numbers and doubt we will see anything considering the NPD no longer releases numbers to the press. So far the best estimations I have found is from VGChartz, and they are hardly accurate on numbers. They put a total of ~540k units sold worldwide (360), and if those UK trends hold true worldwide, I would estimate around ~950k units have been sold across all platforms. Obviously this is all speculation and until EA/Crytek comes out with some real numbers we may never know, and if those numbers are actually poor they will likely never release them and just come out with some positive spin about Crysis 2 (e.g. Crysis 2 did amazing on consoles!).

    Keep in mind that Crysis itself did extremely poor in sales initially and didn't start rolling until the following months, something I find to be true for most PC games. However final sales put Crysis around 3 million and its expansion around 1.5 million for a total of 4.5 million units. That is huge for a PC only game, especially considering Yerli's disappointment believing he could move 4 to 5 times as many units if they were on the console.

    I guess in the coming months we'll see if the gamble to abandon the loyal PC following they had to join the console was worth it.

    @EXCellR8 I wouldn't categorize Bioware or Epic as PC centric any longer. Even though they may be developing stuff for the PC, it's clear they are console rock stars and have simplified many aspects of PC gaming.

    Regarding STALKER 2, I was under the impression like DBZ that it was being focused on the PC first considering they are doing a rewrite. To me it would be even more suicidal for them to abandon their loyal PC following since a game like STALKER isn't exactly some mainstream shooter the average console gamer will want to pick up.
     
  15. yRaz

    yRaz TS Addict Topic Starter Posts: 982   +123

    According to these(Page 10) sales numbers, Crysis sold 3million copies and Crysis warhead sold 1.5 millon. If you look at these numbers, posted by Relic, Crysis 2 has sold approximately 1,000,000 units across all platforms. If you add up Crysis and Crysis Warhead, they sold 4.5 millon units to PC gamers. That means crysis 2 sold about 1/5th, or 22%, of what the original series did. I hope it was worth it crytek, you ruined a PC title and sold less overall catering to consoles.

    I don't want to hear it that it's all because of piracy. They made a BAD game and overcharged it for it. On top of that, they lied to us about the graphics. The deserve every bit of lost sales due to piracy. It should have been a $30 game instead of a $60 one. They charged us the "console tax" on a PC title where they didn't deliver any of their promises.

    THIS IS WHY PEOPLE PIRATE!!! YOU HEAR ME CRYTEK? DON'T MAKE OVER PRICED GARBAGE AND ABANDON YOUR FAN BASE!!!!! PEOPLE ARE PIRATING YOUR GAME AND IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT!

    They made considerably less money trying to make more money. Good.
     
  16. Per Hansson

    Per Hansson TS Server Guru Posts: 1,932   +126 Staff Member

    Wanna know what's even funnier?
    It got cracked for consoles almost a week before it was cracked for PC's!
    But I bet you still that Crytek are gonna blame the launch day/week poor sales on PC piracy, just like usual!

    Crysis.2.XBOX360-MARVEL Uploaded 1 minute and 25 seconds after pre. 2011-03-18

    Crysis.2.PS3-MARVEL Uploaded 2 minutes and 57 seconds after pre. 2011-03-18

    Crysis_2-FLT Uploaded 3 minutes and 16 seconds after pre. 2011-03-24
     
  17. yRaz

    yRaz TS Addict Topic Starter Posts: 982   +123

    A crysis 2 DX 11 patch has been announced. I'm still not buying it until that patch comes out and is tested. They also have to fix the menus and controls for PC before I will even consider it. Seriously, how effing hard is it to make a nice remap of the controls?
    Full story here
     
  18. Relic

    Relic TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,392   +16

    Those sale numbers were 360 only Raz, VGChartz overall estimation on Crysis 2 sales so far is actually 1.2 million. Which for a game being out a couple weeks isn't terrible, however it's no Halo/Call of Duty. It'll be a lot more interesting to see how well the game does in the following months like Crysis, and to see real numbers from EA statements/financials. I have a feeling the later figures will settle around the ~3 million mark and be hailed as a success. When in reality, they just traded the loyalty of PC gamers in an attempt to pander to those on the console with no real gains. /Shrug, maybe I'm being too harsh.
     
  19. yRaz

    yRaz TS Addict Topic Starter Posts: 982   +123

    Fixed. The site you listed shows numbers closer to 1 million, but that isn't really that important.

    It will be interesting to see the sales once the DX 11 patch comes out
     
  20. superty12

    superty12 TS Enthusiast Posts: 432

    After what I've heard, I'm sure this will happen. -CRYTEK CEO: Sorry, but we were not able to get the DX11 patch completed. FANS: Why didn't you do that when you developed the game!? CRYTEK CEO: It was not in our best interest. FANS: We're never buying another Crytek product again!- What do you think about that not yet said conversation?
     
  21. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,909   +91


    I think you are about spot on Superty. I think the only reason they are putting one out (at some point) is the uproar over the ***** phone booth shooter with 2008 graphics. I really think they thought that they were going to ride the rep of Crysis.
     
  22. teklord

    teklord TS Maniac Posts: 527

    I played Crysis 2 demo and it looked and played really well on max settings. Problem was, it wasn't ground breaking like Crysis 1 was and still is. Hopefully they will get back to their roots and make Crysis 3 the epic tech demo Crysis 1 was. If they keep up the cross platform trend, Crysis 1 is probably the last we will see of ground breaking games.
     
  23. superty12

    superty12 TS Enthusiast Posts: 432

    Wow, they released 3 of them. But they didn't have the courtesy to put them in an update. At least they're free.
     
  24. F86Sabre

    F86Sabre TS Rookie

    No

    I highly doubt it.
     
  25. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,909   +91

    You realize of course that you said that a day after the DX11 patch actually came out....right?
     


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