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Dual boot 2 copies of XP using clone of 1st install on new partition

By dahughes
Jun 6, 2005
  1. I want to install a second copy of XP on my PC. the reason is that the kids and their friends use the computer for messenger, p2p, games etc and have managed to get it infected with a few viruses i've had difficulty getting rid of and also the thing tends to gets bogged down and sluggish with so many installs/ uninstalls. So i want to run two separate copies, one for me and another for them to screw around with as they please.

    The route i have taken is to perform a clean install of xp then split my hard disk into two equal primary partitions using partition magic keeping my original xp installation on first partition. I don't have an Xp installation Cd, only a Restore CD from computer manufacturer that gives gives no other option than reformatting hard disk into one partition and restoring xp. So i attempted to make a copy of my XP partition using norton ghost, but this crashed every time so ended up using maxtor dos utility for copying image of xp to new primary partition.

    I now have identical copies of XP on two primary partitions. i edited the boot.ini on the original active partition to take account of new xp installation and cool, everything works fine. i get the option screen at boot-up and can select from either XP installation and both seem to run fine.

    But in order to keep my installation secure from the kids and to avoid any viruses getting on my partition i want my copy of XP to be hidden from the kids when they boot into theirs. So, i tried installing BootMagic, but can't get it to load the 2nd copy on the new partition. i have setup the 2nd xp copy in the configuration utility selecting the correct partition that it is installed in. When i boot PC, bootmagic option screen appears
    displaying both xp copies. The original xp install on first partition loads fine (well what actually happens is that it goes from bootmagic to Xp's own OS selection menu allowing me to choose again) , but when i select the 2ndXP copy on new partition from Bootmagic menu , the screen changes to something like "setting up machine to load Xp" but hangs there and doesn't go any further

    I have tried several other boot managers including bootit ng, os loader, but none will load the 2nd copy of XP on the new partition, the screen just goes blank. Even without any boot manager installed and the 2nd partition set to active i cant get the new copy of xp to run withouht using the XP OS boot menu from the boot.ini on original partition. Before setting 2nd partition to active i did update the copy of original boot.ini to take account of this XP copy being on 2nd partition and not first.

    Can anyone suggest what i need to do to be able to get BootMagic ,or any other boot manager with ability to hide chosen partition at startup, to load my copy of xp on second partiton. i guess that there must be settings/files that the 2nd copy of xp must use from first partition in order to load but after spending a lot of time researching online i'm none the wiser. I'd be greatful to anyone who could help, thanks
     
  2. RealBlackStuff

    RealBlackStuff TS Rookie Posts: 8,165

    Messy kids never will keep to their 'own' installations.
    Get a harddisk tray, then get a second harddisk, and copy that XP onto that.
    Swap harddisks when you swap users.
    See for some details here:
    http://www.slonet.org/~araul/drive.htm
     
  3. yanegorz

    yanegorz TS Rookie

    You can use only MMC :)

    You mustn't use any Boot loader...

    try this:

    Start second copy of XP (that only for you) and login

    A)
    1. MyComputer -> contex menu> Manage
    2. + Users & Local Groups
    3. + Users
    4 [..user..] properties -> unplug account

    Repleace p.4. on every users you want unplug
    !!!! not on administrator & [..you..]

    NOW: the second copy of XP have only Two active users:
    [..you..] & administrator

    :) Kids, Guest & other stuff can't login on this copy of XP :slurp:

    Close MMC

    B)

    1. Open MyComputer or Explorer
    2. open propierties of disk with second copy of XP
    3. move to tab security and delete from list 'users', 'Advace Users', 'ALL'
    4. OK.
    5. XP setup access right to this partition for:
    - [..you..] -- optional
    - Administrators
    - SYSTEM
    - CREATOR OWNER

    Reboot the computer

    C)

    login as one of a kid to first copy of XP
    and try to open a disk with second copy of XP
    if all was good done then you get a message 'Access Denaid'
    or somthing like this.

    !!!! Remember
    Kids must be not a member of Arministrators Group
    otherwise - describe methods don't work

    have fun
     
  4. trickyt

    trickyt TS Rookie

    Stopping Kids from installing virusses with two hard disks

    I have found a much simpler solution to the dual drive solution for kids and virusses.
    Download the FREE Steady State program from Microsoft.

    "You can't always prevent problems during a user session, but now you can undo the whole session. Learn how Windows SteadyState can return your computer and hard disk to its exact condition before the user touched it, simply by rebooting."
     
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