Remember all the synthetic Pixel Shader 2.0 benches that showed very poor performance on NV3x cards? Check out this Beyond 3d review..... http://www.beyond3d.com/misc/traod_dx9perf/ I was pretty surpised to see the HUGE difference in performance between R3XX amd the NV3XX cards. Hoping that Nvidia will optimize their shaders, they have some serious catching up to do......Wondering if HL2 will show similar results.... Interesting that for the low end, DX9 Nvidia cards, Why are you buying that FX5200 again??? Go Ti4200!!!