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Nvidia has more then a handful of these bad drivers every year that cause issues. I didn't have to go cherry picking for launch day bugs to find this one.
That must be why 90% of people use Nvidia GPU's at every price point, because AMD aren't any worse, or inferior. That's gotta be it.
Is this how silly I look when I am being biased? Yikes.

There is absolutely no doubt, to anyone in IT, that isn't self-deceptive, that AMD GPU's have been, are now, and will be crappier overall, and the steam results firmly support everything I've stated, and nothing you've said.
Want to know why?
Because I am just mentioning what is, and why it is.
90% market share at every price point. Case closed.
You can b!tch about it.
You can link folks having issues with GTX/RTX GPU's.
But you cannot argue a single point I've said about AMD issues, why their market share is so low, and why AMD is second fiddle and why the Steam results are so drastically one sided. They are, the underdog, their products inferior, their market share DRASTICALLY inferior.
We all know why this is, doesn't matter if I, or someone else clarifies it, it is what it is.
Accept it or b!tch and complain, those are your options.
The 5700 issues are just another addition to a long line of issues for AMD GPU's.
Steam results back what I say, they do not back what you say, and unfortunately, this is the best evidence/substance for any argument on why people buy or have what they have. It's so obvious and ridiculously one-sided, this isn't even a discussion or argument, its one person saying what is, and another having issues accepting it.
 
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You heard it here first folks.
Millions of people are wrong, and a few AMD fanboys on Techspot are right... Steam results have Nvidia with complete domination because Radeons are just as good, and with the same amount of issues!
:lol: Hahahaha!

Hey, their the underdog for a reason.
The Steam results are what they are for a reason.

I'm not afraid to admit GTX/RTX cards do have their share of issues too, no doubt.
The number is miniscule compared to Radeon issues, and acting like they are equal is just ignorant denial. On average Nvidia hardware/software has been, is now, and will continue to be much more stable/superior. Until that changes, the Steam results won't change either.
But I guess you guys know more then millions of people who purchased their card, and why Nvidia has 80-90% of the GPU market on lockdown. It must be because GTX/RTX cards have as many issues as Radeons and millions of customers are wrong.
Good lord, now I am starting to feel bad.
Just because Nvidia still dominates the GPU market does not mean that AMD is inferior, the point is that this architecture has a lot of potential, and because it is still in it's early stages, it hasn't had time to gain consumers attention, look at how ryzen has begun to dominate the cpu market, because you can get nearly identical gaming performance, coupled with hugely better performance elsewhere, all at a great price. AMD cards did what they were supposed to, compete with 2060/2070 non super, they beat them and compete with the responsive super series cards (responsive because they're obviously there in response to the imminent destruction if they weren't released). The fact that AMD still competes even with the super series cards means that their cards are performing even better than anyone expected them to, and there are still more cards coming, where Nvidia releases nine different cards to conquer all that AMD has to offer, AMD can still compete with all but two of them, and still be better priced. Also, while Nvidia may dominate the GPU market, you're forgetting that the way that AMD cards stack up against Nvidia cards makes them more powerful than a lot of their mid range options at a lot of price points, and although they may not YET have the high end covered, I'm sure they will, it just takes longer because AMD is working from both sides of the PC market, whereas Intel/Nvidia only have to focus on one, I applaud AMD for being able to produce such innovative products, and their ability to shovel in cpu market share, while having to also attempt to make the first Navi launch a success, and I cannot wait for "Big Navi" because if it follows the same trend as Ryzen has, then AMD will dominate everything, unless Nvidia finds a way to massively increase performance at the same price, rather than giving slighter improvements at a hugely increased cost because they wanted to include RT. Also, do those cores really need to cost that much or is this similar to apple tax? That logo isn't worth everything, and I don't like having to pay the price of a 5700 for a monitor with Gsync support, just because I want to play at 1440p.
 
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That must be why 90% of people use Nvidia GPU's at every price point, because AMD aren't any worse, or inferior. That's gotta be it.
Is this how silly I look when I am being biased? Yikes.

There is absolutely no doubt, to anyone in IT, that isn't self-deceptive, that AMD GPU's have been, are now, and will be crappier overall, and the steam results firmly support everything I've stated, and nothing you've said.
Want to know why?
Because I am just mentioning what is, and why it is.
90% market share at every price point. Case closed.
You can b!tch about it.
You can link folks having issues with GTX/RTX GPU's.
But you cannot argue a single point I've said about AMD issues, why their market share is so low, and why AMD is second fiddle and why the Steam results are so drastically one sided. They are, the underdog, their products inferior, their market share DRASTICALLY inferior.
We all know why this is, doesn't matter if I, or someone else clarifies it, it is what it is.
Accept it or b!tch and complain, those are your options.
The 5700 issues are just another addition to a long line of issues for AMD GPU's.
Steam results back what I say, they do not back what you say, and unfortunately, this is the best evidence/substance for any argument on why people buy or have what they have. It's so obvious and ridiculously one-sided, this isn't even a discussion or argument, its one person saying what is, and another having issues accepting it.
Steam results don't mean Sh!t, just because a bunch of people use them does NOT mean that Nvidia GPU's are better, it just means that enough people decided to overpay for their GPU's, I'm pretty sure that a lot of that market share comes from 1060's 1050ti's 2060's 1660 ti's and 1070's, but a used vega 56 with a high oc or even a bios flash can nearly match a 1080, and it can cost sub 200 (note I said used ex ebay, not some retailer, I'm NOT referencing the $200 V56 myth). Look at the Polaris/Polaris refresh lineup, destruction of all of Nvidia's mid range lineup, for much lower prices, and you don't have to pay extra for gsync monitors because, what do you know, Freesync doesn't mean putting extra **** in your monitor, HUH I WONDER WHAT'S MORE COST EFFECTIVE?
 
That must be why 90% of people use Nvidia GPU's at every price point, because AMD aren't any worse, or inferior. That's gotta be it.
Is this how silly I look when I am being biased? Yikes.

There is absolutely no doubt, to anyone in IT, that isn't self-deceptive, that AMD GPU's have been, are now, and will be crappier overall, and the steam results firmly support everything I've stated, and nothing you've said.
Want to know why?
Because I am just mentioning what is, and why it is.
90% market share at every price point. Case closed.
You can b!tch about it.
You can link folks having issues with GTX/RTX GPU's.
But you cannot argue a single point I've said about AMD issues, why their market share is so low, and why AMD is second fiddle and why the Steam results are so drastically one sided. They are, the underdog, their products inferior, their market share DRASTICALLY inferior.
We all know why this is, doesn't matter if I, or someone else clarifies it, it is what it is.
Accept it or b!tch and complain, those are your options.
The 5700 issues are just another addition to a long line of issues for AMD GPU's.
Steam results back what I say, they do not back what you say, and unfortunately, this is the best evidence/substance for any argument on why people buy or have what they have. It's so obvious and ridiculously one-sided, this isn't even a discussion or argument, its one person saying what is, and another having issues accepting it.

Hmm, steam top lists all include GPU's that are outclassed by the Polaris/Polaris refresh lineup(excluding 1080) at a much lower price, seems like something is wrong with people's decision making here, rather than the GPU's themselves, because you can look at the reviews, and the benchmarks, and the factual prices of all these cards, and their adaptive sync monitors, and find that oh, AMD is SUPPOSED to have all this market share! But people don't care, because they are close-minded, and can be herded around like sheep to buy the next shitty offering by Nvidia, meaning that no, people don't only buy Nvidia because they know they're better, it's because they have the preconceived notion that Nvidia cards are better, and that AMD cards are trash.
 
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That must be why 90% of people use Nvidia GPU's at every price point, because AMD aren't any worse, or inferior. That's gotta be it.
Is this how silly I look when I am being biased? Yikes.

There is absolutely no doubt, to anyone in IT, that isn't self-deceptive, that AMD GPU's have been, are now, and will be crappier overall, and the steam results firmly support everything I've stated, and nothing you've said.
Want to know why?
Because I am just mentioning what is, and why it is.
90% market share at every price point. Case closed.
You can b!tch about it.
You can link folks having issues with GTX/RTX GPU's.
But you cannot argue a single point I've said about AMD issues, why their market share is so low, and why AMD is second fiddle and why the Steam results are so drastically one sided. They are, the underdog, their products inferior, their market share DRASTICALLY inferior.
We all know why this is, doesn't matter if I, or someone else clarifies it, it is what it is.
Accept it or b!tch and complain, those are your options.
The 5700 issues are just another addition to a long line of issues for AMD GPU's.
Steam results back what I say, they do not back what you say, and unfortunately, this is the best evidence/substance for any argument on why people buy or have what they have. It's so obvious and ridiculously one-sided, this isn't even a discussion or argument, its one person saying what is, and another having issues accepting it.

By this logic, Call of Duty and fornite were / are the best video games ever. Popularity isn't an argument on the merits of a product, it's what people bring up when they have no evidence to actually support their claim. Ditto goes for marketshare. More sales != better product, just ask the people who bought pet rocks. Reviews don't take into account marketshare and sales when they are reviewing a product and that is because both are completely irrelevant when determining how good a product is. Of course, amstech knows more then every tech reviewer on the planet, he is a god who is never wrong :joy:.

"You can b!tch about it.
You can link folks having issues with GTX/RTX GPU's.
But you cannot argue a single point I've said about AMD issues"

It is not surprising you missed it given you seem to be allergic to reading things that don't agree with your opinion. I debunked every single one of your "AMD issues" points in a nice bulleted list. See:

1. Did you watch that first video? The card was used with a cx430 and molex to pci converters to power the card. Enough said. There's a reason it has more downvotes then upvotes. Just like last time, you just throw random links into your comments with titles that support your assumptions but when I actually watch the videos (which you clearly do not) it's a big nothing burger

2. You linked a 2 hour steam of a guy troubleshooting his 5700 XT with the caption "countless folks have stuttering/freezing issues". How exactly is one person "countless"? How exactly does "one" transition to "countless"? By that logic, these following links prove that there are "countless" issues with Nvidia cards:


3. The third video you linked is a review for the XFX RX 5700 XT. The only thing in that video that could be considered an issue is a card specific fan stop issue, which is pretty minor. I shouldn't have to tell a "tech enthusiast" that this minor issue only occurs on this card and not all RX 5700 XTs but you linked the video anyways. Also, it might be wise to include a little context with your links. Like what part of the video specifically addresses your point (but then again you would have to watch the videos to do that lol).

I really hope that steam marketshare wasn't your last hope, given that it's completely irrelevant to how good a card is.

The 5700 issues are just another addition to a long line of issues for AMD GPU's.
Steam results back what I say, they do not back what you say, and unfortunately, this is the best evidence/substance for any argument on why people buy or have what they have. It's so obvious and ridiculously one-sided, this isn't even a discussion or argument, its one person saying what is, and another having issues accepting it.

Do you even remember your original claim anymore? At first you linked a post about a launch day 5700/5700 XT thread and claimed it meant plenty of people were returning their GPUs. Of course, nothing there said anything about return numbers or any data to support that assumption, you took two completely different topics and tried to link them together to fit your narrative. Not to mention, kind of misleading to claim Navi has issues now when you linked a launch day thread from over 2 months ago. Context is important and you love stripping it to try and push your false points. Now you are claiming that the steam marketshare somehow correlates to AMD GPUs having issues. At no point does steam's numbers reveal anything about AMD Navi GPU issues, the two are unrelated. Either you are linking two completely irrelevant topics or you are linking official sources that have nothing to do with the topic at hand (like your RX 5700 XT Techspot review earlier) and claim they support your point when in fact they have nothing to do about it. You have also tried to claim that a single 5700 XT model having a BIOS issue somehow implicates all 5700 XTs as being bug ridden. I should not have to explain to any tech entusiast why that is not GPU specific, it's model specific. At that it's a single model from XFX that can be fixed via an update. Trying to take such a small, specific, software based issue and make it appear as though all RX 5700 XTs are bad? You can't get more misleading and hyperbolic then that.

Once again, amstech trying to mislead and misinform. I think I'll take the word of objective tech reviewers on the internet, who give AMD's Navi GPUs a resoundingly positive mark across the board.
 
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Thats your guys's response?
Steam results don't matter and its a popularity contest?

I debunked every single one of your "AMD issues" points in a nice bulleted list.
You haven't countered anything, because you cannot.
You've complained about it alot, and I am reading alot of excuses too, but nothing that explains or disputes the fact that Nvidia GPU's on average are superior at every level and the market share/steam hardware results proves every word of that.
The end.
 
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Thats your guys's response?
Steam results don't matter and its a popularity contest?


You haven't countered anything, because you cannot.
You've complained about it alot, and I am reading alot of excuses too, but nothing that explains or disputes the fact that Nvidia GPU's on average are superior at every level and the market share/steam hardware results proves every word of that.
The end.
Most people game on mobile phones?
 
You heard it here first folks.
Millions of people are wrong, and a few AMD fanboys on Techspot are right... Steam results have Nvidia with complete domination because Radeons are just as good, and with the same amount of issues!
:lol: Hahahaha!

Hey, their the underdog for a reason.
The Steam results are what they are for a reason.

I'm not afraid to admit GTX/RTX cards do have their share of issues too, no doubt.
The number is miniscule compared to Radeon issues, and acting like they are equal is just ignorant denial. On average Nvidia hardware/software has been, is now, and will continue to be much more stable/superior. Until that changes, the Steam results won't change either.
But I guess you guys know more then millions of people who purchased their card, and why Nvidia has 80-90% of the GPU market on lockdown. It must be because GTX/RTX cards have as many issues as Radeons and millions of customers are wrong.
Good lord, now I am starting to feel bad.
You really need to stop exagerating. You are just emberrasing yourself and making your favorite "football" team look bad. With fans like you I would not go watch a single game from them.
You got wreked hard by ppl here with concrete evidence on your BS :D
 
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Thats your guys's response?
Steam results don't matter and its a popularity contest?


You haven't countered anything, because you cannot.
You've complained about it alot, and I am reading alot of excuses too, but nothing that explains or disputes the fact that Nvidia GPU's on average are superior at every level and the market share/steam hardware results proves every word of that.
The end.
Hey, uh amstech, there's this thing we learned when interpreting data in my AP Psych class, correlation does NOT equal causation, the only thing that can prove that x causes y is an experiment, and you don't have the numbers of anything besides what people have bought, which only shows one thing: sales, the performance numbers prove that AMD is king with what they've put to the table. If you really think that correlation equals causation, then you must be the one behind the graph that shows a positive relationship between ice cream sales and murder rates, and then the guy that shouts "Ice cream causes murder!!!"
 
You really need to stop exagerating.
90% of the market at every price point, unfortunately, is not an exaggeration, and a few AMD fanboys saying I'm exaggerating or not backing up my claim is just blatant fanboy denial.
There is no discussion here, just acceptance of what is, and why it is.
Inferior software and hardware going on 10 years that is common everyday IT knowledge, and it shows in the market share/hardware results.
The 5700 is a decent GPU and AMD drivers have improved, but it is what it is, doesn't matter what I say or claim when its the truth.
 
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90% of the market at every price point, unfortunately, is not an exaggeration, and a few AMD fanboys saying I'm exaggerating or not backing up my claim is just blatant fanboy denial.
There is no discussion here, just acceptance of what is, and why it is.
Inferior software and hardware going on 10 years that is common everyday IT knowledge, and it shows in the market share/hardware results.
You're uh, you're still not proving how Nvidia cards are better without using correlational evidence, meaning you still haven't actually proved causation, and therefore, you haven't actually proved that Nvidia or AMD cards are better.
 
You're uh, you're still not proving how Nvidia cards are better without using correlational evidence
Because 90% of people on Steam don't understand what they are buying!
Ahhhhhahahaha! :joy:

Discrete GPU Market Share:
80% Nvidia
20% AMD.

It must be because what I am saying is wrong, and what you guys are saying is right! That's right... discrete AMD cards are just as good overall....which would correlate to real world sales right?
Ahhhhhahahaha! :joy:
 
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Hmm, looks like at 120 or less, you can get -15% performance, compared to a card that costs over 200. Then look at the 580, at 180 or less you get basically identical performance. Oh, what's that? A V56 bios flash/oc can perform 2% worse than a 1080? HMM, looks like the top cards on the steam charts can be beaten or equaled by "lesser cards"
 
Because 90% of people on Steam don't understand what they are buying!
Ahhhhhahahaha! :joy:
" An argumentum ad populum (Latin for "argument to the people") is a fallacious argument that concludes that a proposition must be true because many or most people believe it, often concisely encapsulated as: "If many believe so, it is so."
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It is unsuitable as an argument for deductive reasoning as proof, for instance to say that the poll proves that the preferred brand is superior to the competition in its composition or that everyone prefers that brand to the other."
 
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This has nothing to do what with people believe.
This is only about what is, and why it is.
Once product is superior to the other, because of this, one product sells more then the other. The proof is in the sales, there is no argument to be had here, it has nothing to do with belief, your analogy does not apply.
 
This has nothing to do what with people believe.
This is only about what is, and why it is.
Once product is superior to the other, because of this, one product sells more then the other. The proof is in the sales, there is no argument to be had here, it has nothing to do with belief, your analogy does not apply.
The only relationship here is between what people believe is better, not necessarily what is better, again, stop using correlations to declare causation, I've already debunked your "AMD trash because they're lower on steam charts" myth by proving that the most common cards on the steam charts are beaten at lower price points by AMD cards, leaving only the fact that the consumers are Sheep.
 
This has nothing to do what with people believe.
This is only about what is, and why it is.
Once product is superior to the other, because of this, one product sells more then the other. The proof is in the sales, there is no argument to be had here, it has nothing to do with belief, your analogy does not apply.
1. 1060 - Matched by 580, beaten by 590, both cost less
2. 1050Ti - beaten by 570 by over 40%, while 570 costs the same or less
3. 1050 - Worse than 1050ti and still almost the same price
4. 1070 - beaten by V56, which can actually be found for good prices used, and can match 1080 perf
5. 1080 - Matched by Bios flash/OC V56 for far less
6. 970 - [facepalm] - beaten by 580, 580 actually has the VRAM
7. 960 - [facepalm^2] - Beaten by 470 - can find on eBay for 80
8. 750 Ti - Budget builders who need to upgrade, your $80 for a 470 is worth it
9. 1080 Ti - Rich Kids & Enthusiasts, overpriced, 5700 XT for 250% more
10. 2060 - Defeated by 5700 for $50 less
11. 580 - Makes sense for it to be here, but deserves more
12. 2070 - beaten by 5700 XT for $50 less
13. 960M - Mobile GPU, not AMD's aim
14. 1070Ti - Beaten by Bios flash/OC V56
15. 1660Ti - Beaten by Bios flash/OC V56
16. GT 730 - Just get the 560, better perf, not a huge cost
 
The only relationship here is between what people believe is better
Your trying to dispute a decade of commonly known information. I'll admit I am being a little of a jack@ss, slandering crime on AMD here, and I apologize to the author, I will refrain from doing so for a long time, I do not mean to demean AMD. The fact they've had many more issues on average is just the truth and common knowledge throughout the world of PC gaming with discrete GPU's. Nothing I have said here changes any of that. This doesn't mean AMD make a bad product, the Radeons are badass.
Discrete market share and Steam results fully support any claim I've made and mean more then 100 youtube videos and 1000 links to threads. Saying those results don't correlate is just wishful thinking. If AMD's product offered the same reliability, quality and execution of Nvidia products, it wouldn't be so one-sided, as its not all about all out performance, as the consumers have shown with their wallets for the better part of a decade.
I'm out folks, post away and apologies to Techspot.
 
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Your trying to dispute a decade of commonly known information. I'll admit I am being a little of a jack@ss, slandering crime on AMD here, and I apologize to the author, I will refrain from doing so for a long time, I do not mean to demean AMD. The fact they've had many more issues on average is just the truth and common knowledge throughout the world of PC gaming with discrete GPU's. Nothing I have said here changes any of that. This doesn't mean AMD make a bad product, the Radeons are badass.
Discrete market share and Steam results fully support any claim I've made and mean more then 100 youtube videos and 1000 links to threads. Saying those results don't correlate is just wishful thinking. If AMD's product offered the same reliability, quality and execution of Nvidia products, it wouldn't be so one-sided, as its not all about all out performance, as the consumers have shown with their wallets for the better part of a decade.
I'm out folks, post away and apologies to Techspot.
No, the point is that it's only correlation, and correlation doesn't equal causation, your claim was that Nvidia>AMD, although it's pretty easy to see that AMD is cheaper and performs just as good or better against their planned competition, and even the competition provided by the super series, I don't know how you just can't seem to understand simple english
 
This has nothing to do what with people believe.
Indeed it doesn't. It has everything to do with your argument using groups of people to argue that your idea of nVidia being better is true, which is what the wikipedia link perfectly described... Don't deny it now, because that is the ONLY argument you have. It's all about large groups of people;

Its common knowledge anywhere
You heard it here first folks.
Millions of people are wrong, and a few AMD fanboys on Techspot are right...
But I guess you guys know more then millions of people who purchased their card
its common knowledge
That must be why 90% of people use Nvidia GPU's at every price point
90% of the market at every price point,

And that argument was just proven to be a fallacy. What else do you have? Oh right, nothing. Let's continue anyway then.... Because this nonsense needs to be exposed.

This is only about what is, and why it is.
Really? Let me guess. You have the perfect reason why, even though you yourself admit that you are completely biased and cherry picking to support your argument and dismissing anything that is inconvenient...;
those links and countless threads, its all horse poop, no substance or truth to it at all
A couple vids of Nvidia cards having issues does nothing to combat anything I've posted
You can link folks having issues with GTX/RTX GPU's.
But you cannot argue a single point I've said about AMD issues
You haven't countered anything, because you cannot.
It doesn't become more obvious how biased you are and how much you cherry pick. And that is without all the anti-AMD drivel that you spouted this entire thread.
"Cherry picking, suppressing evidence, or the fallacy of incomplete evidence is the act of pointing to individual cases or data that seem to confirm a particular position while ignoring a significant portion of related cases or data that may contradict that position. "

Once product is superior to the other, because of this, one product sells more then the other. The proof is in the sales, there is no argument to be had here, it has nothing to do with belief, your analogy does not apply.
"Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that affirms one's prior beliefs or hypotheses.[1] It is a type of cognitive bias and a systematic error of inductive reasoning. People display this bias when they gather or remember information selectively, or when they interpret it in a biased way.
People also tend to interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing position. "

Discrete market share and Steam results fully support any claim I've made and mean more then 100 youtube videos and 1000 links to threads. Saying those results don't correlate is just wishful thinking.
"Belief perseverance (also known as conceptual conservatism[1]) is maintaining a belief despite new information that firmly contradicts it.[2] Such beliefs may even be strengthened when others attempt to present evidence debunking them, a phenomenon known as the backfire effect "

And lastly, and more importantly, your circular reasoning... You're using the Steam results to argue that nVidia is better than AMD, and also saying that AMD needs to be better for the Steam results to change;
On average Nvidia hardware/software has been, is now, and will continue to be much more stable/superior. Until that changes, the Steam results won't change either.
but nothing that explains or disputes the fact that Nvidia GPU's on average are superior at every level and the market share/steam hardware results proves every word of that.
"begging the question is an informal fallacy that occurs when an argument's premises assume the truth of the conclusion, instead of supporting it. It is a type of circular reasoning: an argument that requires that the desired conclusion be true.
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To "beg the question" is to put forward an argument whose validity requires that its own conclusion be true.

Also called petitio principii, the fallacy is an attempt to support a claim with a premise that itself presupposes the claim.[8] It is an attempt to prove a proposition while simultaneously taking the proposition for granted."

Long story short. All your posts are a list of fallacies. No logic whatsoever. Emotional repetition and useless drivel.
 
that Nvidia>AMD,
This is true.

although it's pretty easy to see that AMD is cheaper and performs just as good or better against their planned competition, and even the competition provided by the super series
You fail to comprehend this is not just about raw performance.
, I don't know how you just can't seem to understand simple english
It's above your head judging by your posts, which are also biased.

Long story short. All your posts are a list of fallacies. No logic whatsoever. Emotional repetition and useless drivel.
10 years of Nvidia having a better, more reliable, higher quality gaming experience on average with less issues is not a fallacy, its simply the truth and a commonly known one.
A few butthurt fanboys bitching about it and saying its not true is not going to change the discrete market share or Steam results, which back my statements, and counter yours. You got nothing but generic issues and an opinion.
Nvidia has 80-90% discrete market share and Steam users are 90% Nvidia users, because its a better product, with less issues and a better reputation. Only a fanboy baby would complain and say otherwise, and that's all your doing, b!tching and complaining about what is while forming excuses to explain it.
 
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This is true.


You fail to comprehend this is not just about raw performance.

It's above your head judging by your posts, which are also biased.


10 years of Nvidia having a better, more reliable, higher quality gaming experience on average with less issues is not a fallacy, its simply the truth and a commonly known one.
A few butthurt fanboys bitching about it and saying its not true is not going to change the discrete market share or Steam results, which back my statements, and counter yours.
Once again, trying to argue that Nvidia is better because they have the best, but you're forgetting that the market that wants "the best" is a lot smaller than the market that wants performance for their dollar, which is where AMD wins, because they can offer the performance for much lower cost, as shown by the numerous cards beaten by the AMD competition, and the fact that you have to pay an extra 100-400 dollars for Nvidia's adaptive sync technology, whereas AMD's comes with basically any monitor currently on the market, equating to essentially, zero extra cost. This is what consumers want, they just have more people telling them that Nvidia has the best of the best, reinforcing their beliefs that Nvidia is the way to go, even though, for what you're paying, you could get an even better AMD product. What you're trying to do is say that nothing matters but how many people buy the cards, and that the reason is that Nvidia is better, although based off of performance and cost, the logical, and most economically sensible choice is AMD.
 
This is what consumers want
What consumers want?
If you want to know what consumers want you can google discrete GPU market share or look at the Steam hardware results.

100-400 dollars for Nvidia's adaptive sync technology, whereas AMD's comes with basically any monitor currently on the market, equating to essentially, zero extra cost.
It's cheaper and not as polished.
Nvidia software, drivers and features are miles ahead of AMD’s. I recently switched to Nvidia from 5 years of using AMD and the difference is like night and day. Less crashes, smoother experience, game ready drivers out very quickly on release. AMD have improved a lot though, at one point they were only releasing one WHQL driver per year.
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Freesync is not as good as Gsync, as always AMD's stuff is rougher around the edges with less features:

FreeSync’s openness does have some drawbacks. Shopping for a FreeSync monitor is a pain in the *** compared to buying a G-Sync display. FreeSync monitors only support adaptive sync within a specified frame-rate range: 48Hz to 75Hz in the case of many low-cost models, for example.
Some G-Sync panels include added perks like refresh rate overclocking and Ultra Low Motion Blur, which combats the notorious blurring of text and other elements at very high refresh rates. It’s a killer feature for e-sports games.

Monitors with LFC duplicate frames when refresh rates are below the FreeSync minimum, enabling the refresh rate to enter the FreeSync range. If your graphics card is pumping out 30 frames per second, LFC duplicates the frames and runs the display at 60Hz, keeping things smooth. It’s great!

It’s also not mandatory, and largely found in pricier panels. Without LFC, moving into and out of FreeSync range is jarring, as you’ll go from silky-smooth gameplay one second to stuttering or screen-tearing the next. Again: You need to do some research to get the best possible FreeSync experience.

But its still damn good.
Gsync makes my old girl feel like a new machine, best systematic upgrade since the SSD.
I love my HP Omen 27".
 
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10 years of Nvidia having a better, more reliable, higher quality gaming experience on average with less issues is not a fallacy, its simply the truth and a commonly known one.
A few butthurt fanboys bitching about it and saying its not true is not going to change the discrete market share or Steam results, which back my statements, and counter yours. You got nothing but generic issues and an opinion.
Nvidia has 80-90% discrete market share and Steam users are 90% Nvidia users, because its a better product, with less issues and a better reputation. Only a fanboy baby would complain and say otherwise, and that's all your doing, b!tching and complaining about what is while forming excuses to explain it.
I guess TechRadar (among MANY other websites) are fanboys....
 
Once again, trying to argue that Nvidia is better because they have the best, but you're forgetting that the market that wants "the best" is a lot smaller than the market that wants performance for their dollar, which is where AMD wins, because they can offer the performance for much lower cost, as shown by the numerous cards beaten by the AMD competition, and the fact that you have to pay an extra 100-400 dollars for Nvidia's adaptive sync technology, whereas AMD's comes with basically any monitor currently on the market, equating to essentially, zero extra cost. This is what consumers want, they just have more people telling them that Nvidia has the best of the best, reinforcing their beliefs that Nvidia is the way to go, even though, for what you're paying, you could get an even better AMD product.
This is true.


You fail to comprehend this is not just about raw performance.

It's above your head judging by your posts, which are also biased.


10 years of Nvidia having a better, more reliable, higher quality gaming experience on average with less issues is not a fallacy, its simply the truth and a commonly known one.
A few butthurt fanboys bitching about it and saying its not true is not going to change the discrete market share or Steam results, which back my statements, and counter yours. You got nothing but generic issues and an opinion.
Nvidia has 80-90% discrete market share and Steam users are 90% Nvidia users, because its a better product, with less issues and a better reputation. Only a fanboy baby would complain and say otherwise, and that's all your doing, b!tching and complaining about what is while forming excuses to explain it.
Because a lot of people buy something, does not mean that it's the better product, you're still doing the same thing, although it doesn't prove anything, the only thing it proves is that Nvidia is more popular, and popularity does not matter when you are discussing the quality of the cards, sure there may be a correlation, but as said before correlation does not equal causation, it only hints at a *Possible* relationship, but the thing is that people on this planet easily adhere to what everyone else is doing and to what seems is expected, how do you think advertising (aka propaganda) works, it gets you to think a certain way, often excluding the benefits of the other side, and that is why people buy Nvidia cards, most are novice PC builders or people who couldn't wait for AMD's equivalents to come out later (because they have 2 products to release) and bought the Nvidia stuff before finding out that "hey, that's cheaper and equivalent". The rest are people who will support Nvidia no matter what, even if they push prices over that of what used to be considered a high end build, and give smaller and smaller performance increases with each generation, and include technology that no one wants until it's there, and making equivalent technologies cost multiple times more than that of your competition's technology (Gsync).
 
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