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Former Microsoft employee launches 'Fixing Windows 8' blog

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  1. Shawn Knight TechSpot Staff Posts: 1,672

    A former Microsoft employee has launched a blog called ‘Fixing Windows 8’ that offers suggestions that he hopes the company will implement prior to releasing their next operating system. Simply…

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  2. TomSEA TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 1,965   +135

    "Is Microsoft trying too hard to make Windows 8 a tablet OS and overlooking traditional desktop users?"

    That's exactly how I view it.
  3. mario TechSpot Developer Posts: 384   +6

    Watch the entire video, the last 10 seconds are totally worth it ;)
  4. chaboi390 Newcomer, in training Posts: 83

    thanks, totally worth it haha!
  5. I kinda like the Metro interface but like the video...There are a few things they should change before release...or many of us will be pulling a Vista and wait Till Windows 9 and the fixes comes out. I mean I had to google how to shut the thing down...really...that man clicks and its hidden? Shutdown should be on the main screen!!!
  6. Matthew TechSpot Staff Posts: 5,893   +53

    I think "overlooking" is too strong of a word. To me, that implies Microsoft is completely ignoring the desktop aspect of Windows 8 and that's not true. Windows 8 is obviously trying very hard to be a valid operating system on two completely different platforms. That's no easy task and so I don't expect Microsoft's first attempt to be perfect. There will be problems. How the company addresses those issues is what matters most in my opinion.

    I don't think the video proves much of anything. Maybe it proves an old man might not find Metro as easy as he should be able to on his first attempt. That can be easily resolved. And even if it isn't, the "average user" we all love to downtalk doesn't need to access Metro and the desktop UI. They could probably comfortably browse the Web, check their email, check the weather and chat on IM in either interface without ever using the other.

    Meanwhile, Windows 8 might not ship in an ideal state for experienced folks, but power users wouldn't be power users if they didn't tweak things to their liking. I can't think of a single desktop OS I've used where I didn't make changes to the usability, be it through registry hacks or third party software. Windows 8 will be no different in that respect. I think the only major argument in all this is whether Windows 8 will be worth upgrading to over 7.
     
  7. If they can't find the shutdown button.Most users will just hit the power button to shutdown..Which isn't good a thing either.
    But that video made a real good point though..
  8. They need to trash the disaster that is the metro interface and start with a fresh canvas. There are many mockup UIs of Windows 8 that look simple yet spectacularly elegant.

    The Fisher Price my-first-computer tile UI does not belong on a desktop computer. It does look good on a slate/tablet PC though.
  9. Zen TechSpot Paladin Posts: 938   +40

    To be honest, I've kind of given up the ghost on bad talking new up and coming Operating Systems. Simply put........"it's going to be, what it's going to be"! I don't plan to take Windows 8 out for even a test drive, for the days of Windows Vista put a sour taste in my mouth in regards to Vista and Vista looking Operating Systems, I just leave them alone now and since the early days of Vista I went back to what I know and love, might not work for some, most people love their "eye candy" now a days, but Windows XP Professional does everything I want and more!

    I'm sticking with XP for the duration!
  10. Timonius TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 515   +18

    Priceless! Maybe I should be focusing my IT studies towards that area :)

    On the other hand here might be an opportune time to push free Linux OSes to the masses. Most Linux distros I've tried are pretty straightforward if you are an average user.
  11. We secretly replaced this user's Desktop OS with a table OS, let's see if he notices the difference.
  12. I think that instead of updating my windows 7 to version 8, I will make a downgrade to Windows XP x64!

    Windows eXPerience is the best Windows in history!... no more... Period!
  13. that should be Tablet OS...
  14. Complete failure on MS's part. Metro is such a failed user interface for the desktop/laptop, it's not even funny. The OS was clearly designed for touch screen devices....how many desktop and laptop computers have a touch screen?

    MS doesn't get it. We just spend $100+ on Windows 7. It works well. Why the **** would anyone want to upgrade in just 2 years when Windows XP lasted us almost 10 years. Windows 7 is good enough to last 5+. It has DX11 which is at most what next generation of consoles will use.

    MS should have just refined Windows 7 and released Metro for tablets and smartphones and left the traditional desktop ALONE.
  15. Yes, come on Microsoft make two versions like you always have. You're so constrained. There's only so far you can get as your developers only reflect a small portion of the global community. Listen to us we use it so we should be able to tell you what will work. You can ignore any "I don't like change statements" just take note of the "How can I do this" and "why down't we have that" statements
  16. I can't even begin to tell you how accurately this portrays my experience. I thought to myelf...so THIS is what non-techs feel like when you shove a computer in front of them.

    Looks like Microsoft is well on their way to fulfilling their OS Success-Fail-Success-Fail pattern with this Win8 operating system (aka XP, Vista, Win7, Win8) ...and I like Microsoft! yeesh! (They gotta fix that interface before release)
  17. Lionvibez TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 305   +36

    I feel for you bro.

    But as they say ignorance is bliss.
  18. Metro is a nice interface for both tablet AND desktop--or maybe I should say, it CAN be.
    Having tried the CP, I know when I say that Metro is a disaster right now. It is way less flexible than the desktop when you can just position multiple windows next to each other in any way or fashion you like.
    Stuff is hidden away where you don't expect it is another problem.
    Multi-tasking with Metro is somewhat shrouded. We don't know what we can let Metro apps do in the background. Can we compile stuff, can we defrag stuff, can we just let apps load in the background, etc?
    The final problem is that all Metro apps are too simplistic. They don't need to be. If they end up too simplistic, power users will just ignore them and the holy grail that is Metro will fail, which it must not do. Remember that Metro is not just a UI; it is based on the new WinRT platform, which will make it easier to develop consistent experiences and get rid of old nuisances such as extremely ugly UI, focusing stealing applications, noisy applications that pop up messages out of nowhere, and more.

    NEVERTHELESS, it is pure foolishness to say an OS is bad when you haven't tested it. After you've tested it, you have the right to say so. XP isn't going to stay around forever, anyway, and good riddance--every XP computer out there puts all other computers at risk due to old buggy, insecure code.

    So all the naysayers out there - go try it out, then come back complaining. Perhaps it might enlighten you and make you wiser in what is true and what isn't.
    And let's hope Microsoft fixes Windows 8 before it ships.
  19. The interface is FUBAR, not so much the FU but definitely the BAR (Beyond All Recognition for those that don't know what FUBAR stands for). It's a horrible idea to get rid of the Start button, that is the key to navigation on a PC for your average user as the dock is to OS X. Im certain people will be confused and hate this new interface because most will find it frustrating. The part that gets me is that it is removing the Start button is not necessary, you could have a button there that takes you back to the "boxes" without sacrificing the new style. I guess we'll see what happens when Windows 8 is officially released and pre-installed in all new PC's
  20. gzt7d8 Newcomer, in training

    I totally agree with you! But, will the Blog make a difference...my opinion....no, I think they've made up their minds.

    Guess I'll wait for Windows 9, I think Windows 7 has become the new Windows XP, where people love it and see no reason to move away.

    gs