Games for Windows Live to compete with Steam, others

By Matthew
Dec 4, 2009
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  1. Microsoft has announced that Games for Windows Live will receive Games on Demand on December 15, essentially becoming a full-fledged game distribution platform. As implied by its name, Games on Demand will allow users to purchase and download titles from their PC.

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  2. Wagan8r

    Wagan8r TechSpot Guru Posts: 586   +45

    Where will it fit?

    At
    the

    bottom.
  3. TomSEA

    TomSEA TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,319   +370

    I had to mess around with MS Windows Live in order to get DLC for Fallout 3. It was the most clunky, confusing and awkward client I've ever encountered.

    They have some serious work on their hands if they believe they're even remotely going to compete with Steam, D2D and Impulse.
  4. wcbert

    wcbert Newcomer, in training Posts: 71

    I visited Steam almost everyday to play a game for hour or two. It the games the make the service and Mircosoft know this. I think they can hit a home run on this one
  5. compdata

    compdata TechSpot Paladin Posts: 604

    In many ways i like the digital delivery (don't have to worry about backing up DVD's, can download on any computer i am on as long as i don't run at the same time, etc. . ). However there are many things that are just DRM crap like having to be connected to the internet to play anything, and what happens if someone sues Steam and takes it down? Where are my games then?
  6. Docnoq

    Docnoq Newcomer, in training Posts: 141

    Unless Microsoft can start citing some new innovations, they are really in for a surprise if they think they are going to come in and be a player in this market. Personally, I don't want to juggle multiple services. I'll keep using Steam because it has been time-tested and proven to work. They also have killer deals all the time.

    But hey, if this pressures Steam into giving even more killer deals, then bring it on Microsoft.
  7. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,284   +231

    Microsoft might be able to pull some decent numbers... Provided the fix a few things, that is. I had the same nightmare with Fallout 3 as TomSEA, was thoroughly disgusted when compared to DLC experiences from Steam.

    Oh, and the Live gaming interface had better be more stable than their other stuff, like Live Messenger. That thing crashes and locks up so much, it's become an advertising campaign for products like Trillian and aMSN and other alternatives. Pretty sad when other companies can make programs that utilize your network better than you can.
  8. Adhmuz

    Adhmuz TechSpot Paladin Posts: 893   +98

    Maybe this will be a good system, but steam has too many games right now at fairly good prices. The only quirk I have about steam is the pre-order annoyance, yes you can pre purchase games usually at reduced cost, but on the release date you have to wait to some random time of day not at 00:01 AM on the day of release as it should be. Just recently with Dirt 2 which was released on the 1st of December, oh wait no, now its the 4th of December, oh wait no I still can't download it to play... If this new Microsoft service allows me to play the game as soon as it becomes the day of release then I would consider using it, if not then I'll stick with steam and its shenanigans.
  9. BlackIrish

    BlackIrish Newcomer, in training Posts: 84

    Mmm, I had the same problems with GTA IV. Hopefully they'll fix those problems.
  10. buttus

    buttus TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 187

    For me, Steam rocks. I love how easy the interface is, the deals they offer are excellent and even when I have dealt with their customer service it was excellent and most helpful. MS seems to want at least one finger in every pie and it is kinda annoying. Why not just stick with what they do well instead of trying to be jacks of all trades but masters of none?
  11. insect

    insect TechSpot Booster Posts: 183   +45

    The biggest thing will always be price and advertising. Steam offers great deals and by default (can be changed) opens up to a nice advertising page with full links, reviews, price, demos, videos, and screenshots, which always draws me in.

    If MS can offer better deals and bring the deals to the masses in a similar or better way than Steam, they might gain some reputation. Of course, like most anything... it's always a good idea to shop around because any of the services might offer a better deal than the other.
     
  12. Richy2k9

    Richy2k9 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 515

    hello ...

    more actors means more competition & always good for us consumers.

    if there a few free games, why not give it a try!? i wander if steam & D2D have free games too ... will do a check, thanks to this article i've learnt about impulse, must check!

    cheers!
  13. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,364   +9

    Microsoft has another thing coming if they think they can take on steam do i like steam no bot alot but it is the best at what it does. Who hasnt looked at prices on steam and went wow thats better than retail and then bought a game? im not a fan of the way microsoft produces software i mean is live going to give me an error every 5 min or say live has stopped responding and restart i hope not i for one will not use this service.
  14. Misch868

    Misch868 Newcomer, in training Posts: 21

    I'll probably give Microsoft's service a fair try. I don't know how you could do better than Steam (although Steam does have those little annoyances like releasing games on time). But I love having all of my games in one place and being able to back them up or transfer them to any computer. I think Steam may get itself into a little bit of trouble if it gets too many exclusives (like modern warfare 2) that hurts competition with other companies. Hopefully Microsoft whips up something worthy.
  15. slh28

    slh28 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,925   +170

    I think the Games for Windows Live reputation took a battering when they asked people to sign in just to play a game, even single player. Nobody wants to play DRM-laden games with clunky software to jump through hoops, and knowing M$, the digital copies will probably be the same price as physical copies.
  16. KG363

    KG363 TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 524   +9

    Unless they do something revolutionary, I think that the only business they will get is from the people who see "Games on Demand" in their Games folder
  17. treeski

    treeski TechSpot Guru Posts: 867   +128

    I don't doubt that Microsoft will get some of my business through this service. I use Games for Windows, soooomewhat reluctantly, for DoW2 and Unreal Tournament 3.

    I rarely buy games at full price, which is partially why I like Steam so much. Steam as a lot of free-to-play weekends + significant discount. If Microsoft's new service has some big deals that Steam isn't giving, then I'll buy the game through Games on Demand.

    It almost always comes down to where I can find the best deal, honestly =P
  18. ET3D

    ET3D TechSpot Paladin Posts: 957   +30

    I'll certainly keep an eye on this. Microsoft might not get things right on first try, but they do know how to improve their offerings, so it could grow up to be a competitive service with Steam, and I'd certainly welcome competition here.
  19. LOL Microsoft not doing so well with the crappy XBox so now the company is trying to kiss PC gamers asses ..... LOL .... hope Microsoft don't mess with my Steam client ...
  20. My biggest fear is Microsoft wont try to compete with the other services but instead try to get developers to exclusively release only on their platform even if it is inferior. I really don't have much faith in Microsoft trying to get a foothold int he market by providing a superior service and better deals to customers. Instead we will have all the same old problems with GFWL but no choice for what to use with new releases.

    if I'm wrong I will gladly eat some humble pie and try their service, but I am very skeptical.
  21. I wish them luck, GFWL is still a bit too restrictive compared to Steam.
    Like to see how they handle DRM situation vs Steam.
  22. treeski

    treeski TechSpot Guru Posts: 867   +128

    You must not keep up with console news, because the Xbox isn't in any kind of trouble.

    I mean, for example, I think a day or two after banning 1mil consoles, they had the largest number of users online ever.

    And with their new motion sensor technology, a company (I forget which, you can find it earlier on the Techspot news page) already remarked that they have like 15 game titles lined up to use the technology.

    Also, Xbox might be behind Wii and PS3 with sales (although I'm not sure it is behind PS3 in total sales) but it still has a good following of its own.
  23. UT66

    UT66 Newcomer, in training Posts: 144

    MS Windows Live sucks. and no ms i wont use your net framework crap.
  24. Eddie_42

    Eddie_42 Newcomer, in training Posts: 213

    its not about stealing people away from other digital distribution sites, It a way for Micro$oft to distribute their own content, and the developers which they have contracts with. A game made by valve wont magically show up on the micro$oft site...that's contracted to steam. Similarly...windows 7 wont be distributed through Steam
  25. Xclusiveitalian

    Xclusiveitalian TechSpot Guru Posts: 675   +39

    i doubt you can even call it a competion when steam wins overwhemingly Steam is the wal-mart of pc gaming
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