German consumer group sues Valve over the resale of Steam games

[lipe123]

Unfortunatly the cheap side of human nature is whats causing all this. Did you think that purchasing agame on Steam at such a discounted rate wasnt going to have some issues? Yes the games out there cost anywhere from 20-70 bucks for physical media. But you get more rights with the physical media. You dont have the same rights with a digital copy. You as a consumer agreed to the terms and conditions on each and every one of those sales. Personally, I would just be happy I got to play those games and chock up the loss of cash to the fact that I found it that cheap. Blaming Steam and Valve for my own short sightedness smacks not only of heavy sour grapes. But goes to show that no good service goes unpunished. Businesses are only there to make money. The days of some innovator just jumping out and saying "screw me for my product!!" are long long gone. With mega corporations and the shadiness of man, no person would be foolish enough to start a business without having the goal to become rich. Just be happy you found a service that allows you to enjoy this media at a substantially discounted rate. Anything else just goes to show the world that you as a individual are just petty and small and prolly need to have your toys taken away and put in a serious timeout.

Who said anything about discounted rates? What does the amount paid for the game have to do with its value to the customer?

Physical media is just a content delivery system and doesn't give you any resell rights either, cause you still need to activate the game on steam/origin/etc before you can play it.

You are being overly defensive about something that should be common sense. If I buy a game and get tired of it after 4 hours (that terribad dungeon keeper remake for example) why can I not resell that to somone else for 5$ or w/e I want to sell it for?
It's not like I could still play it after I sold it so whats the problem?

It's BS like this that enables/encourages piracy! Try before you buy became "pirate before you buy" because once you buy you are hosed.

 

[sliderider]

I understand where they are coming from tho...they can push any agreements they want on us, probably even payments to play games we purchased because if we don't accept those agreements they just delete your account and all your games go bye bye...if you defend that your insane...

You are not paying for the games, though, just the ability to play them. You do not own anything that can be transferred to someone else. You are paying for an intangible service and if you do not agree to the terms of the service, then they are not obligated to keep you as a customer.

Who said anything about discounted rates? What does the amount paid for the game have to do with its value to the customer?

Physical media is just a content delivery system and doesn't give you any resell rights either, cause you still need to activate the game on steam/origin/etc before you can play it.

You are being overly defensive about something that should be common sense. If I buy a game and get tired of it after 4 hours (that terribad dungeon keeper remake for example) why can I not resell that to somone else for 5$ or w/e I want to sell it for?
It's not like I could still play it after I sold it so whats the problem?

It's BS like this that enables/encourages piracy! Try before you buy became "pirate before you buy" because once you buy you are hosed.

You can't sell it to someone else because you do not own anything that can be sold. It's a pay to play system similar to rentals except that the money you pay entitles you to play the game indefinitely where rentals are for a fixed amount of time.

Luckily there are countries where consumer rights aren't as easily lobbied against as in the US.

What consumer rights are you talking about? Did you even read the terms of the Steam agreement? It specifically states that you do not own the games, you are only buying the ability to play them on the Steam network. What exactly is it that you think you own?

 

[Tygerstrike]

@Slider
Give it up. These ppl complaining didnt read the ToS. If they did, they agreed to it anyway. Its just little boys crying because they cant have what they want. Put no more stock into it then you would a child having a temper tantrum because he didnt get his way either. Its as easy as can be to understand the Steam business model.

 

[PinothyJ]

I even posted the relevant section of the subscriber agreement tht you must agree to before ANY game is purchased or activated...