Google now activating 500,000 Android devices daily

By Emil
Jun 28, 2011
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  1. Andy Rubin, Android's co-founder and now vice president of engineering at Google, has revealed a new milestone for the mobile operating system: half a million devices activated daily. "There are…

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  2. Hummm Come September...moving from blackberry to ??? Use to think Android but they seem to be all scattered.....might go new Iphone...I hate Apple.....But I went the best APP support and it looks like Iphone is where it's at....Ugggjhhhh...damn Google...wth
  3. princeton

    princeton TechSpot Addict Posts: 1,716

    Lol. So you care about app support yet you own a blackberry?
  4. Panda218

    Panda218 Newcomer, in training Posts: 95   +13

    Typical Guest ^^
  5. Butch

    Butch TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 112

    Go Android!
  6. mario

    mario Ex-TS Developer Posts: 399   +17

    Emil you love making assumptions: "Google is now clearly beating Apple and its iOS platform", how is it clear when no one knows now many iOS devices are currently being activated.

    Actually the latest data comparing iOS with Android phones showed that the availability of the iPhone on Verizon actually stagnated Android's growth in the US.

    Android for sure will sell more devices globally than Apple but there are a lot of really crappy devices, specially tablets, being sold with the Android platform. Last week a friend of mine showed me the crappiest chinese tablet I've seen and it was running Android, I'm pretty sure they also count those embarrassing devices as activations.
  7. princeton

    princeton TechSpot Addict Posts: 1,716

    Only if they have market access. And most of those cheap Chinese ones don't.

    Oh and those nice figures that showed the verizon iphone slowing android growth were proven false.

    http://androidandme.com/2011/06/new...share-away-from-android-according-to-one-guy/

    Also that's a nice little **** up you have there relating to who is doing better.

    So nobody knows but somehow there is data to show who is doing better. Self contradiction much. Hell the article even states how many iOS devices were being activated at one time because Jobs reveals it during conference calls. You can prance around all you like acting like Apple is winning the smartphone war but the numbers(not your numbers, the actual numbers) show they aren't.
  8. It's obvious Android has hit a brick wall..Better come up with something quick there Google.
  9. princeton

    princeton TechSpot Addict Posts: 1,716

    Oh god. I can't tell if it's sarcasm or not!
  10. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,105   +18

    I'm glad that the success of a product I don't own does not lessen my enjoyment of the one I do.

    Good for them.
  11. mario

    mario Ex-TS Developer Posts: 399   +17

    @Princeton there's data about phones because they are mostly sold through carriers, there's no contradiction just data published and good old common sense.

    And the article you shared is also just a counterpoint from one guy who actually ends his thought with an open question about the veracity of the reports. If you prove something is false you conclude with actual facts not an open question about user opinions.

    By the way there are no smartphone wars, Apple is very doing great by themselves and they have a great line of products, they earned almost 3 times the revenue of Google last year and have a market cap that doubles Google's. And that is by developing products people actually want to pay for and not by putting crappy advertising all over your face and invading privacy.

    My initial complaint was with assuming "Google is beating Apple" without actual data to compare both. And even if that data would be available it would be safe to assume Apple and Google are very close and that is great, but that's not the only thing that makes a platform more successful than other, as I previously stated a healthy software platform, quality products and happy customers should also be taken into account. And out of that 500,000 devices being activated I would bet a good portion is of those crappy chinese/generic tablets and phones being sold globally and if that means Google is beating Apple well good for them at playing the market share game.
     
  12. Wagan8r

    Wagan8r TechSpot Guru Posts: 583   +45

    Freaking LOVE that picture! I think I've just found my new desktop wallpaper.
  13. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,105   +18

  14. MrAnderson

    MrAnderson TechSpot Maniac Posts: 488   +10

    Uhm... the heck with the story... I want the story art for my desktop image... please!!!!
  15. lawfer

    lawfer TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,272   +90

    There's so many wrong points with your argument, I'm afraid I won't have enough time to list them all... Hell, who am I kidding? You bet I'll list them all.

    You conclude Emil's conclusion is erroneous because, as you stated, there’s nobody that knows how many actual iOS devices are being activated. But now you say:

    So there is data, and therefore, people know. That’s not only contradictory with your previous statement, but it also contradicts with the “common sense” part of your second—equally contradictory—statement that says such data is known by good old common sense. Well, good old common sense in the first place tells me that to make figure comparison, both sources’ data has to be known... In other words, you contradicted yourself after contradicting yourself. That's cute.

    Also, did you know that phones sold through carriers count as activations? You can NOT go in to a Verizon or AT&T store and purchase an iPhone (or any phone for that matter) without having service activated. You do know that, right?

    It’s clearly apparent you didn’t even read the article. Go figure. You seem to be attacking the way the author ended or constructed the article. But what you seemed to not read was this part:

    The author ended the article with a question to ask his readers to weigh in and debate. He had already proven the lack of veracity in Wolf’s predictions.

    There is no smartphone war? That right there made you lose the little credibility you had. You’re implying Apple is doing so, but so well, there’s no need for them to compete? Give me a break. And what’s with bringing up Apple’s earnings? Are those numbers a cause of their mobile presence? Of course not. Apple is a software and hardware designer, they not only sell the iPhone, they also own a wide arrange of products, services, and personal computers that make it a very, very profitable company. You cannot possibly compare Apple to Google who simply owns and develops software/web services. The comparison of both just sounds like a desperate attempt at an argument. But nice try though.

    Well, "Google is beating Apple”, is a fact, and not an opinion or an assumption. And what’s that “as I previously stated” you say? Please, show me what you previously stated, because I can't find it on this or last comment. You see, now you’re changing your argument saying that if even said data was available (which it is), you wouldn’t consider Google as the winner, because, to you, other factors should be accountable. Well, that’s to you. To everybody else here, whoever has sold/activated the most devices is the most successful, or, for context: the winner. Arguing about what makes a company itself “better” in an article that’s discussing sale/activations and market share, seems like an extremely petty attempt to make an argument, especially when such argument wasn’t even your original argument to begin with.

    Lastly, in case you forgot, Android is an open source operating system. Acting like those “generic” tablets with Android is something Google has to something do with, is very simplistic of yours. Google does not manufacture hardware, nor does it design it. Google simply provides the software. Had iOS been open source, the same would happen. Alternatively, all of the tablets that are accountable in these figures, are the ones actually activated, not sold. That is because, unlike phones, you don't need to activate a tablet with a carrier when you purchase one, as all of them are WiFi capable. So if you want to get into an ethics debate as to why Chinese manufacturers produce and install Android on their “shitty” devices, be my guest and do it wherever that’s actually the subject.
  16. princeton

    princeton TechSpot Addict Posts: 1,716

    Well Lawfer that's pretty much everything that could possibly be said. Bloody amazing post right there.

    +10 internets.
  17. JudaZ

    JudaZ TechSpot Enthusiast Posts: 292

    just an observation ... why is the symbol for Android a robot, and not an android?
  18. princeton

    princeton TechSpot Addict Posts: 1,716

    Because calling the OS robot would be stupid and having the mascot being a robot that looks like a human would be dumb because you'd just think the mascot was a human, which isn't clever nor memorable.

    Also the Android logo was designed along with the Droid font family made by Ascender Corporation.
     
  19. I wish my bank only counted deposits too...I guess Microsoft is smiling too as they will get some piece of that pie.
  20. peperonikiller

    peperonikiller TechSpot Member Posts: 75

    Lawfer is my hero..

    "Lawfer - Slayer of Apple fanboys"
  21. w3b0n

    w3b0n Newcomer, in training Posts: 38

    im down!

    Lawfer, you sir, i salute you.
  22. mario

    mario Ex-TS Developer Posts: 399   +17

    @lawfer you actually can buy an iPhone without being activated. And by the way there's no data published by no carrier other than by Apple itself and the latest was published on October 2010, where's any updated data, but analysis from market researchers actually found that the iPhone on Verizon did slow Android sales. And stating "Google is beating Apple" as a fact when there's no factual data is a bit misleading. [Thankfully the story has been updated]

    Google does design hardware, they don't manufacture though.

    "As I previously stated" was my mistake, on my first post I originally wrote about it but forgot I deleted that paragraph and posted the message without it. My bad.

    Apple finances matter because they have more than doubled since the release of the iPhone and iOS devices, still going up, and as a result Apple is the currently the most valued technology company and I believe 2nd in the world in general. So if that's being beaten, then great.

    The smartphone wars is a media thing, do you think Apple is jealous of MS because they have a 90% market share on PCs or do you think Apple is happy about having a healthy OS and software environment, great product sales, great revenue and highest quality products. Of course Apple or MS or Google would love more market share anywhere or everywhere, but that's not all of it.

    I don't care who has a bigger market share, I just don't like seeing that kind of unnecessary fanboy-like remarks on a serious article. It's not the first time Emil does it and I'm sure won't be the last, I have no problem with it or him, I just think it's unnecessary and a bit childish calling out on Apple on an unrelated article. He's a great writer, we just have different opinions.

    I would just like a neutral stance on every TS article since I do work for the site :).
  23. princeton

    princeton TechSpot Addict Posts: 1,716

    "I would just like a neutral stance on every TS article since I do work for the site"

    If you work for the Site then I would expect that same level of professionalism from yourself in your posts, but looking through your post history you are obviously biased towards apple products and can not hold yourself to that.

    As for Emil being a great writer, that's very open to debate. He definitely doesn't hold himself to the same standards that Matthew and Jose do. Here's an example of one of his many amazing and helpful comments

    http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4345/dwm2011022023515274.jpg

    Definitely a shining example of great posting. As for his articles I find that they more frequently have errors pointed out than other articles. Although I have not seen so recently and I believe this has been improved. I haven't seen ANY recent errors in any articles on the site(perhaps a new unknown editor?) However I do remember a large mistake that wasn't fixed.

    http://www.techspot.com/news/41075-htc-compares-windows-phone-7-to-aol.html

    Writing at its finest folks.
  24. @marioestrada don't forget all those iProducts are made by Chinese!
  25. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,105   +18

    I don't see Jose, Matthew, Emil or any other writer on this site really posting more than occasional very neutral comments, and certainly never ones attacking another writer. Such matters should be handed privately between the staff.

    Mario,

    you're very far from neutral in your posts, and while you do offer interesting insight in some cases, you're more likely to engage in what can be politely described as Kool-Aid fueled fanboyism.

    I'm sure you've gathered by now that most of the regular members of this site are Windows and Android users. A lot of your comments approach, if not are, those of a troll. Every time something negative is posted about Apple, or even something which praises it's direct competition, you're sure to pop up first being an Apple apologist, usually straining the definition of credibility and logic, but then you invariably move on to insult whatever the competition is, usually again making specious arguments that serve nothing more to irritate people around here.

    So if you're going to keep playing the "I work here" card, you really should tone down the trolling, and take a look at the posting history of the rest of the people who work at this site, and compare and contrast the tone and content of their posts and yours.

    If you want to continue posting as you do, that's fine, as long as you realize that most of the people here don't share your opinion, and will be very vocal in their rebuttals, and you will probably no longer receive any respect that is usually due to site staff. So next time you get "lawfered" you don't need to remind us you work here.


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