Help me upgrading my not for gaming pc to a gaming pc!

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Hi and thxs for entering to this topic. plz help me looking for the best or very good gaming parts for my pc try to make my pc operative for 100% games at max setts.
My pc now is way outdated, i only have $1600.

PC specs now:
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 Dual Cpu 1.60ghz perfomance rate at 2.4ghz
Mainbord: Intel D945gcnl
Memory:1016mb (1gb)
Video Card: Intel 82945g (128mb) is almost not having a video card
Hard Drive: 160gb
 
if what you are saying is that you want to upgrade your old machine....i would not attempt to do do that. with $1600 you can build a gaming behemoth that will play anything on max settings. this is about $1100 which leaves you plenty for a 24" monitor and CD/DVD drive if you need them. you could also add a SSD if you want to improve load times as well. The GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD4P also has 2 PCIE slots for a future Crossfire/SLI upgrade. Also, if your not in a huge hurry, you might want to wait until March to see how the GF100's perform.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128409
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115215
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161301
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835242001
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145260
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148433
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021
 
Probably a good idea.
With some competition in the graphics card market, you'll get a much better deal if you can afford to wait a few weeks. The graphics drivers will be more mature and should offer a better gaming experience as well.
 
with $1600 you can build a gaming behemoth that will play anything on max settings.

Absolutely! That's a lot to play with. :) And with a lot of games to look forward to early this year it's gonna be sweet.
 
The build red1776 has made is really good, but i would make a few changes, like instead of 4gb of RAM i'd go for 8GB and instead of the seagate HDD, the Western Digital Black Caviar. Also if you don't plan on overclocking (and i don't recommend it since the corei5/i7 series already overclock themselves) then you don't need an aftermarket cooler for your CPU. Put that money into more RAM.
Also the motherboard, although very good, has some issues and also when you use Sata 6Gb/s the 16x pci-e slot downgrades to 8x so it's not very useful.
here's an alternative, cheaper, with usb3, but without sata 6gb/s (which is very likely that you won't need it): newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128425

edit: if you want to wait for Nvidia to release the new video cards (Fermi) then it's no problem. maybe the prices will go down.
 
If your p[lanning on getting a 3-series board then you might want to factor in a sound card as the ALC888 isn't an award winner. The 4, 5, 6 and soon to be released UD7, all run the ALC889A which is vastly superior.
 
If he wants a good audio card then an integrated one will never deliver the performance of a pci card.
If you really want a really good gaming audio card than this should be more than enough:
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829102019
 
mmmmm. If I were spending $290 on a mobo+discrete soundcard combo I'd probably look at this first I think http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131482
EAX support on a massively superior board for $40 less.
But I probably wouldn't. Discrete soundcard makes sense if you want HD bitstreaming, but that necessitates something like this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829156014
or this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829132009
Not to mention some very nice speakers and/or headphones
 
@red1776: for a gaming pc 2-3 fps are important.(~you loose about 2% for a hd5870 going from 16x to 8x). besides, when he's going to upgrade to a more powerful GPU in the future he might need the extra lanes.

@dividebyzero That motherboard is really good, but it lacks usb3.0 and the discrete audio card it provides is only a bit better than the integrated ones.
And those audio cards are too expensive. he doesn't need them unless he's doing professional work on the computer with audio files. the card i presented is a gaming audio card. Putting too much money into something meas he has to sacrifice something else.
 
@red1776: for a gaming pc 2-3 fps are important.(~you loose about 2% for a hd5870 going from 16x to 8x). besides, when he's going to upgrade to a more powerful GPU in the future he might need the extra lanes.

That sounds nonsensical, if you don't mind me saying. I doubt there are any games now that you can play with a HD 5870 that you can't play with the card underclocked by 2%.
If you can show me an example I'd be most appreciative.
There is the possiblilty I suppose that playing across three monitors might have a slight impact but I don't think our poster is likely to be looking at 3 display port IPS panels with his budget.
Running a more powerful card would most likely make the difference even more insignificant. The fact that you could probably overclock the card by 2% (or possibly more if you were a tech guru) would render the argument moot.
Excepting the HD 5970 and GTX 295 I don't think there is a graphics card that comes close to saturating the bandwidth of PCIe x16 running at x8 (8Gb/sec concurrent)
 
when moving to a more powerful like the hd5970 card you see that 16x make a big difference:
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...-radeon-hd-5970-2gb-oc-edition-review-22.html
the second picture shows that the avg. fps are: 38 vs 45 and that the min fps. are: 17 vs 26 (big difference here)
Saying that the more powerful the card the less difference you'll see is illogical. He'll need 16x if he wants to be able to upgrade he's PC in the future Unless a motherboard that has Sata3 and doesn't scale down the pci-e slot appears, he has to use sata2 (SSD's that saturate sata2 will still be way to expensive to buy for the next 4-5 years).

PS: there are sata 6gb/s pci-e adapters he can use if he wants to buy a SSD that has more than 250MB/s speeds.
 
It's ridiculous to assume the OP will want to use an HD 5970, given that it will eat up about one-thirds of his budget on its own and that it needs a 30" 2560x1600 screen to unleash its true performance (playing at 1680x1050 with this powerful a card is a waste of cash IMHO).

Also, the bottleneck will be far lesser at a lower resolution, due to the lower amount of pixel-crunching that will be needed from the card. In any case, at lower resolutions, that card will be able to spit out 60+ FPS in any game, making it impossible to tell the difference between 70FPS and 90FPS.
 
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Just post back once you have your final budget- You will find no end of willing advisors I'm sure.
Be sure to include links to where you are likely to be sourcing the components, as availability and pricing will differ depending on your location, whether you need an operating system (OEM/Upgrade/Retail) and if you need peripherals such as keyboard (gaming/multimedia), gaming mouse, headphones, speakers, webcam and any additional software (Acronis True Image for backup as an example)
 
im not in a hurry plz put a new build in march plz

Good idea.

plz answer fast

Lets keep to that idea. :)

@ pctobeupgraded - Take some time and decide when you want to get your PC. If it's March there's no point posting recommendations now as better components would be due by then.
 
@ Puiu
with the exception of Far cry, you are looking at a 2% difference, that hardly makes the x8 interface "not very useful". unless the OP is going to build strictly for the purposes of benchmarking competition. and keep in mind that the benches you provided were all done in 2560 x 1600 resolution,max details, and max AA. also, if you look at most of the scaling studies done, the difference in FPS is more likely attributed to the chipset used.
 
hey ok i know that but jut for having an idea plz post the links og the pc stuff the monitor must be a 24" one, g11 and a good mouse. dont exceed the 1600 dollars plz man only if you can
Thxs to everyone
 
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