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Help with building a new computer

By bhargavnat
Jun 26, 2008
  1. Hi,

    I am trying to assemble a decent gaming rig in the lowest possible budget (~$600). I have tried to think of some of the components I think that might be good. Any advice on the components would be much appreciated. I am not looking for the most powerful system but one on which I can think about playing most of todays games. Please provide any suggestions on deals or other components which might drive the price of the system down.

    Thanks.

    Processor:
    Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Wolfdale 3.0GHz LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor Model BX80570E8400 - Retail

    Motherboard:
    GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX All Solid Capacitor Intel Motherboard - Retail

    Memory:
    OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2RPR10664GK - Retail

    Video Card:
    EVGA 512-P3-N841-AR GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail

    PSU:
    Antec NeoPower 650 Blue 650W ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply - Retail

    Case:
    Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
     
  2. nickc

    nickc TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,675

  3. Gflo

    Gflo TS Rookie Posts: 105

    im also trying to build a decent gaming computer for less than 600

    heres what i got.

    Sony NEC Optiarc 20X DVD±R Burner Black SATA Model AD-7200S-0B

    XION Solaris XON-403 Black with Green LED Light Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

    Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

    ASUS M2N-SLI AM2 NVIDIA nForce 560 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard

    EVGA 512-P3-N801-AR GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card

    Antec earthwatts EA500 500W ATX12V v2.0 Power Supply

    AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz Socket AM2 125W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX6000CZBOX

    OCZ 2GB DDR2 800MHz Special Ops Edition Dual Channel Memory Kit

    that should be just under 600 after rebates
     
  4. raybay

    raybay TS Evangelist Posts: 10,716   +6

    I agree with Nickc... that Corsair is a great deal better, but the sale ends soon.

    Altogether you picked a good rig... You can save some money by getting memory from www.directron.com or www.zipzoomfly.com... Kingston, Crucial, Corsair, Infineon, and others are as good as OCZ and a whole lot cheaper.
     
  5. zipperman

    zipperman TS Rookie Posts: 1,423   +7

    My observation,
    Try to obtain all parts from the same place.
    Best if Motherboard and cpu are installed by a technicon.
    Don't you have computer stores where you live to quickly get an exchange ?
    Post where you live please.
    $600 night buy the above,but you need more then that to complete it.
    $ 1000 is more likely.
     
  6. Matthew

    Matthew TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,094   +86 Staff Member

  7. zipperman

    zipperman TS Rookie Posts: 1,423   +7

    Sounds like a good idea

    You have to be carefull these days to get compatible devices.This link should
    have this kind of suggestions to match.With the arrival of Vista you have to be
    more carefull if your installing Vista and if it has Vista drivers.
    The only good thing i've seen about Vista is it's selling here for about 1/2
    of what XP was and still is.Wonder why ?
    I'd like to add a suggestion for building a new computer.
    Start with the minimum needed to get the OS installed and then do a
    Windows update,Then add the rest 1 at a time.Tell Windows No Thanks,
    I have the drivers.I hope you do anyway.
    Please reply with your decisions :rolleyes:
     
  8. Matthew

    Matthew TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,094   +86 Staff Member

    ...Zipperman what are you on about?
     
  9. zipperman

    zipperman TS Rookie Posts: 1,423   +7

    None of your business

    What are you on about,off to my ignore list.
    :mad:
     
  10. fullmetalvegan

    fullmetalvegan TS Enthusiast Posts: 162

    No really, what ARE you on about?

    o.o

    You are a confusing persona.

    >.<
     
  11. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,305   +52 Staff Member

    This is wrong. Look at the prices yourself:

    [Edited: I linked to products that showed Vista was more expensive than XP, but I didn't research it well. Zipperman is right. I do have an explanation though - XP Retail isn't being distributed any longer. XP is still in demand for business who can't make the switch and people like Zipperman who don't trust Vista. Supply and demand.]

    And no, it isn't fair to compare the Vista Home Basic OS to XP Home, if that's what you're doing, because XP Home doesn't have a 'crippled up' counterpart. XP Home is closest to Vista Home Premium, because of this. Since there is only Home (low end) and pro (high end), it would also be unfair to compare XP Professional against anything other than Vista Ultimate.

    Huh? Can you link to any motherboard, video card, sound card, hard drive, DVD burner, network card, drive controller OR chipset that is not compatible with Windows Vista and is less than 2 years old? Best of luck. He isn't going to be buying 5 year old parts.

    I can agree with doing the 'barebones' install to rule out issues, but moreso to verify the hardware works. Once you get it to POST (On and running), then turn it off, throw in all your other parts and install Windows on it. I don't really think there is a need to do this with the software side of things - everything works pretty well together, these days.
     
     
  12. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,291   +25

    @bhargavnat, not sure if you've bought the parts already, but the E7200 will save you some cash and OC easily to give you the performance of an E8400. You can use the extra cash towards a better video card or a CPU cooler or something else. That being said, the Radeon HD 4850 is a better card to get than the 8800GTS.
     
  13. zipperman

    zipperman TS Rookie Posts: 1,423   +7

    Vista and XP cost.

    Quoteing :
    This is wrong. Look at the prices yourself:
    You look,i already did.Do you need written proof ?
    I guess things are cheaper up in Canada.
    I still have a warranted XP Home and see no point in makeing it
    a coaster.:)
     
  14. fullmetalvegan

    fullmetalvegan TS Enthusiast Posts: 162

    Vista Basic costs less than XP Home in Australia, and Vista Home Premium is roughly the same price depending on where you get it from. So uhm, maybe you live in the only place in world where the prices are different. =P
     
  15. Ph30nIX

    Ph30nIX TS Rookie Posts: 359

    Pretty much same price at the shop I work at.

    XP can only be legally bought as OEM, and even this is being phased out.

    there is NOTHING wrong with vista, you just need to know how to work around any bugs.

    XP was just like this when it came out, so quit your complaining.
     
  16. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 11,055   +970

    Plug it in, Turn it on......

    Rage, Does it matter that this is a 1066 FSB chip, not 1333Mhz ?
    I agree about the overclock.
    I've tracked this CPU's compatibility with a couple of boards by Gigabyte, and they're showing that it does require a BIOS update, (beyond the E8400)!
    Not everybody is as lazy and paranoid about BIOS updates as myself, but I just thought I'd mention it. A part can't possibly be too plug and play for me.:eek:
     
  17. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,291   +25

    The FSB won't matter as much as the cache will. Games are sensitive to cache size, so the E8400 does have an advantage there. But the E7200, once overclocked, can give performance about equal to a stock E8400. Once OC'd though, the E8400 is the fastest there is, barring the E8500.
     
  18. zipperman

    zipperman TS Rookie Posts: 1,423   +7

    Not a good compareison Aussie

    I am speaking for what i can do.You can do the same a little nicer.
    I Can't shop where you shop,only Canada.
    This is Future Shop prices.Check there for more if their the wrong versions.
    Tossed in $99 for comments.lol
     

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  19. Obi-Wan Jerkobi

    Obi-Wan Jerkobi TS Maniac Posts: 592

    Ok, swap that AMD +6000 out for a +5400 brisbane. It's loads faster than it's Windsor cousin.

    Switch the OCZ Special OPs with these.

    Switch the 8800GT with this 9600GT. :)
     
  20. Gflo

    Gflo TS Rookie Posts: 105


    Brisbane has less L1 cache.

    The OCZ is cheaper after rebate from Here

    The 9600gt is a bit fat and will cover a PCI slot(once i can buy another) but i found[URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814141073] this[/URL]

    Thanks i didnt know the 9600's where cheaper

    ALSO: I got a lightscribe dvd burner and a 200gb sata drive for free(friends computer broke and i salvaged the parts :p )

    so now under 550
     
  21. nickc

    nickc TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,675

    u're link does not work!
     
  22. Obi-Wan Jerkobi

    Obi-Wan Jerkobi TS Maniac Posts: 592

    Yeah, I know. But it's a 65nm processor, which makes it faster than a Windsor (90nm) essentially.
    Well, if he cant fit that one, here's one loads cheaper, and smaller. Just that the fat one has a better clock speed.
     
  23. Gflo

    Gflo TS Rookie Posts: 105

    ive decided to go ahead and buy This Gfx card(little bit more than i wanted to spend but it will get the job done) ok and the CPU how OCable is it?

    oh and if you wanted to know it was a biostar 9600gt
     
  24. nickc

    nickc TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,675

    Gflo, u will be proud of that graphics card. as for the over clocking, I can not give an answer as I have never had any experience with one but if u cover clock with RivaTuner v2.06 I bet u can find out pretty fast. be sure to test any over clock with 3Dmark06_v110_installer. I think u can find the program with a Google search.
     
  25. Gflo

    Gflo TS Rookie Posts: 105

    Thx. that gfx card put me a little over budget but i can find a little bit more money somewhere

    also i need to make sure everything i have is compatible so i posted a thread here if you will help with it would be appreciated.
     
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