We do get the point Jim. That's why we're telling him to wait it out. At least I am/do.
We cant actually notice frames per second unless your playing a FP shooter. Waiting whos to say DX10 cards are going to be readily available???
Writing a intro essay on this is not my interest. Debating what game makers are actually going to do is not up for speculation...Your definitely right about how you cant justify spending 400$++ on two cards within 6months.
Eventually i would look forward to buying a DX10 card after it has been out, not on its initial release is all im saying. Buying new technologies as soon as they come out do not usually result in happy consumers. Also he needs to make sure a DX10 card will be compatable with his mobo components. One does not predict on how they are going to invest, they research based on history and implement their strategy based upon on investments not solely on the future.Technology is not always reliable, so it is best to go with whats recent and what has more options/availability.
Hows this for history.....and research of past trends to make a choice on an investment ? DX9 came out......DX8 was no more........Companies did not trensend lightly to DX9. They made a game that was DX9 and if you didnt have the hardware you didnt play. or atleast play with all the shiney bits. People moved on......Its not a question of if DX10 comes out, it is when. It is inevitable.
I dont know why people are making such a big deal on this transition. Its going to happen and there is nothing you can do.
I do however get the point that if he wants somthing in the here and now and dont care about forking over another XX amount of $$$ in the near future than yes he should get a DX9 card. But if he wants to make a single purchase and be good for over a while then he should buy a DX10 card.
The only problem is should he spend $300 on a 8800GTS
Buy one of the poochy 8600's for less
Or wait and see what ATI has to offer (if they ever release somthing)
That choice is up to him and how he wants to make a investment. All I am saying is if he buys a DX9 card it will be a short yeild investment and I just wanted to make that clear to him.
I don't mean to be rude, but that is a terrible card! Three Generations old! Not to mention it doesn't even have Shader Model 3.
I voted for nVIDIA, because I believe they are better than ATi. Also eVGA is the best nVIDIA card.
Hey I kinda know that some of you gave models but how about giving me some more.
Please don't pointlessly start a flame war. If you get a low end or old card from either ATi or Nvidia, it will have trouble running games. If you get a mid-range card from either company, it will run most games fine. If you get a high end card from either company, it will run almost everything extremely well.
As an example, you shouldn't compare an ATi 9800 Pro to a Nvidia 7900GTX. They are both top end cards, but the 9800 Pro is 2 generations behind the 7900GTX, hence it gets slaughtered by the 7900.
Same goes for comparing... for example a Geforce FX 5950 Ultra and a ATi X1950XTX. They are both top end, but since the 5950 is 2 generations older, the X1950 destroys it.
Just please don't flame people just because they like ATi and you think Nvidia is better, and don't flame people because they like Nvidia and you thing ATi is better.
As stated HERE by JimShady23:
The true gamer uses the best tool for the job regardless of brand.
So calm down fanboys and let people have their say.
Excellent post MetalX. You're completely right.
As probably said before, the 8800GTS 320MB is probably the best bang for the buck video card.
It is also a DX10 card, and destroys any previous gen card.
If you wanna go cheap, there are some good cards like the 7900GS, 7950GT, ATI X1950XT etc.
They will perform very good in current and future DX9 games, but they will get outdated pretty soon, when Vista and DX10 becomes standard.
Just my 0.02c
I agree with wolfram. Excellent way to put it.
8800 GTS I what i recommend
I am thinking quite strongly about the NVidia 8800 GTS. Although it is over $100 over budget.
It would be a great card. I want it too, but it's too expensive right now ($269)
Wait for prices to fall when the Radeon HD series releases. That'd be a great time to get the card.
do you kind of know when they will come out?
The Radeon HD is going to be launched on May 14 in Tunisia. More details here.
Thanks so not to far from now!
Yeah, which is why I advised you to wait.
You Da Best man! (I think)
I don't know if any of you read maximum PC but I heard that if you want an AGP card completly go with ATI
cause it is the one place where the kick out the competition!