Ya, I've read up using those stickies. I think I actually used the links you posted mirob, and I must say it gave some great information, had my P4 prescott oced from 3.0ghz to 3.9ghz the other day, but I just don't have adequate cooling to run it that high... yet. But I just thought I'd give a newbie overclockers perspective here... those forums have loads of information about almost anything you could imagine.