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How to install original drivers for my Nvidia Geforce 7600GS (from original disc)

Discussion in 'Device Drivers' started by GN48, Dec 24, 2009.

  1. GN48 Newcomer, in training Posts: 156

    Number One, System Restore - Done that a few times, and the results are all fail, meaning, if install drivers (when I mean drivers, I mean all, one on the disc and the ones downloaded from the net) again, monitor will go back to standby mode every f***** time!

    Number Two, It probably has a hardware fault; due to the colour changes if you haven't seem post #8 (The one that has alot of links compared to other posts), you'll see I have provided some images when boting to safe mode and such.

    And the last one, out of your interest; why you'd rather 16-bit and not 32-bit (32-bit kinda looks better, doesn't it, or am I ignorant and not know the limits of my computer?) or maybe the 8-bit style, though don't know if it does goes down to that.
  2. dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,088   +194

    I believe once you opt of 16/32 bit colour you automatically ramp the cards memory to 2D settings.
    If I had to take a wild guess I'd say that you were pushing too many pixels on your GTA:SA mod.
    I ran a full conversion of the game- reworked textures, very high poly vehicles, weapons and skins, and even with dual GTX280's and an i7 at 3.8GHz it's damn hard to push the game at 1920x1080 to the fps limit.
    The same modded game MINUS the vehicles of 60k + poly count running on a 9800GTX+/Q9550 is still enough to throw up artifacts at 1680 x 1050. The short answer is the 7600GS (or for that matter all 7 series cards, possibly excepting the 7800GTX 512Mb) is not built to handle the fillrate you are trying to impose on it- it has neither core speed or bandwidth- which is why the advice you have been given (and have ignored) is to test the card and power supply. My guess is as I stated earlier that it's the card- most likely the VRM or a memory chip, neither of these faults would be apparent until they have voltage pushed through them-see my first sentance.But it's a little hard to tell as I also asked whether you noticed the card artifacting before fritzing out completely (also not forthcoming)- if it had for instance then downclocking the card could help.
    You seem to be looking for a magic bullet cure-all.
    Good luck
  3. GN48 Newcomer, in training Posts: 156

    Sorry, but can you explain what this means? :eek: Does this mean my Nvidia Geforce 7600GS is useless?
  4. GN48 Newcomer, in training Posts: 156

    Um, hehe.... can explain that?

    oh and, what's that a Nvidia Geforce GTX 280 you got? nice! Does that graphics card support XP 64-bit? (for my future gaming computer)
  5. dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,088   +194

    Your video card has GPU core and Vram speed presets for 2-D and 3-D applications.

    As to whether your card is useless...who knows? While it sits there untested it is more than a little difficult to ascertain.

    If you want to find out then I suggest you follow the troubleshooting advice given earlier in the thread.

    1. Change out the card with another known to be working and see if the problem remains.

    2. Check to the power supply for adequate 12volt power delivery- via a hardware based tester is best. Software based testing requires a BIOS that monitors psu voltages, or a software that can be used in an OS enviroment (like OCCT, Speedfan).

    3. Was the card artifacting prior to the driver install/reinstall -this is a biggie, as it would indicate that the card in cooked. I would be surprised if you ran GTA:SA in modded form without it artifacting to be quite honest. A 256Mb card with limited shader/pixel pushing capabilities being worked in such an intensive game. Just how prevalent the artifacting was and whether you combatted it by dropping some of the mods, or by some ineffectual means (raising clockspeed or dropping to 16 bit colour).

    4. If the card will not accept a driver then you cannot test the card by downclocking the core and vram. Which leaves you option 1 or 2.
  6. dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,088   +194

    Modding a game means- as surely you are aware- substituting textures and simple models (i.e. most of the vehicles in GTA weigh less than 20kB all up- .txd and .dff) with complex models that usually have a hugely greater pixel count - a small car mod is usually 1Mb, and I've installed individual vehicles of 10+Mb.
    Simple car=1000-1500 pixels......Complex car= 60000-100000 pixels. Multiply that by the number of vehicles and textures/skins rendered on screen. Multiply that again by the number of fps. You see where this is going?

    Operating systems and programs are 64-bit dependant, not graphics cards.
     
  7. GN48 Newcomer, in training Posts: 156

    I don't think that can an option, you see, I only got one graphics card at my place, and to replace that with a working one, I'd have to buy another graphics card. Which I think my dad wouldn't be surprised that I "killed" the current graphics card.

    I can use Speedfan for that can't I? I mean I got Speedfan but I don't really know how to use it.... :eek:
    When I first loaded up Speedfan, I notice my GPU core temperature was over 3 million degrees Celsius! What the F--! Okay, I think, that's to say my graphics card is f******, right?

    While installing the drivers manually, there was, but this was in normal mode, safe mode didn't show such things. (that's how I installed the drivers)

    My graphics card was actually pretty good at rendering the images, at an average of 60fps, you'd have congrats for that! (Tobe honest, there wasn't much graphical options to turn off or on anyways) I myself, don't really think GTA SA is an intensive game, if it was, then running the game with the level of graphics the same will drop down to 20fps or less to be called intensive.....just like running NFSPS, just only the graphics of the car all the way up and the world detail all the way up, it runs just less than 20fps, that's what you call an intensive graphical game!

    Anyways, I just reinstalled GTA SA, so everything should be back to normal, car sounds, graphics of the cars, lights, cars and the speedometre I stuck in is no more, I'll just delete the CLEO library for now....Oh wait, I don't think the speedo metre has anything to do with the graphics card, does it? only tells you how fast your vehicles are going and that's all, so, I'm going to leave that in, okay?

    If you say my graphics card is "cooked" than, how come, I can still see stuff on the monitor without the drivers, huh? Or is this the doing of the VGA controllers XP gave me? if it was "cooked", I'd see smoke coming out of the tower.

    I haven't down clocked my graphics card yet....so I'll skip this one
  8. GN48 Newcomer, in training Posts: 156

    Yeah, I know what modding a game means, just add a few personalized stuff into the game, but doesn't really make graphics card work harder, unless it's showing more fps than usual, than it is.

    So in other words, you don't know, right? Well, I found out the answer; from the Nvidia website, it says the OS must be atleast VISTA (damn.....!) to work fine, so I guess I have to find another good graphics card in terms of performance, not for money (I'll eventually have that), in games but can atleast support XP, you know of any?
  9. GN48 Newcomer, in training Posts: 156

    My monitor is a HP71, and for some reason when I stuck in the converter; my vga cable into the vga port of of converter which is stuck in the dvi port, the monitor just goes to standby mode

    If you must know what my graphics card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121007
    that's like as close as it looks for my graphics card.
  10. GN48 Newcomer, in training Posts: 156

    Ohhhhh, my bad.......

    Do you remember this? Forget what I said before, it was my fault to give you wrong answers. My brand is ASUS, sorry, I am ignorant as always..... :eek: I picked this up while I was taking a look at the box my graphics card came with....

    I have also managed to scope out some drivers for it; http://www.nodevice.com/driver/EN7600GS_SILENT_HTD_Series/get66663.html but unfortunately, it's only for Windows VISTA 32- bit and 64-bit, I'll try find these drivers, but for XP 32-bit not VISTA!

    While reading this, can you also tell me why my VISTA laptop has Nvidia drivers even though it doesn't even have an Nvidia graphics chip or card?
  11. GN48 Newcomer, in training Posts: 156

    Do you remember how, I said I was to redirect my drivers directly to the Nvidia website? Well, I think the drivers I downloaded, might be wrong and therefore, I will download the ASUS VGA card display driver version 185.85 for Windows XP I found on their website, and we'll see how my graphics card turns out.... Is the graphics card going to turn out that the drivers do work, or will it simply refuse it, and not show a thing on my monitor.....we shall see, once I came back here and keep you updated.....
  12. GN48 Newcomer, in training Posts: 156

    If the drivers I downloaded don't work, then do think I should another graphics card exactly the same as the current one, or should I buy the Best GT variant in Gaming performance? I just need to think ahead, just incase it doesn't work. Can you give me a link to the best brand of the Nvidia Geforce 7600GT if possible, please.....just wanna see the different performances it makes. Are all branded 7600GT exactly the same (besides the brand names) or is there something under the hood, that's making the difference?
  13. GN48 Newcomer, in training Posts: 156

    Okay, I've installed the ASUS VGA card display driver version 185.85 for Windows XP that I downloaded from the ASUS website. Well before that, I uninstalled the 195.62 forceware drivers from nvidia, and used Driver Sweeper twice, to make sure there was no trace, though it kept coming back, so I gave up, just installed the ASUS version one. While installing it, no probs, maybe a little 0.5 of a second standby mode for my monitor, that's all. And maybe abit of some manual work, cut and paste to where the drivers were installed to. Well, atleast this time there was no artifacts found while installing it. Strange thing is, is that after (don't know if it was successful or not) instalation, it's suppose to say, do you want to restart now, but it didn't, so I manually restarted my computer, and when loading up windows XP there was a few artifacts found on the Windows logo thingy. After loading XP, BSOD showed and said there was something wrong with my drivers. Here's a what it said:
    A problem has been detected and Windows has been shut down to prevent damage to your computer.

    If this this is your first time you've seen this stop error screen, restart your computer ((First time- restarted, but came back. so is my second time round) and this is not part of the BSOD, I'm saying what I did, when this first came up). If this screen appears again, follow these steps: (it did appear again)

    Check to be sure you have adequate disk space (checked). If a driver is identified in th stop message, disable the driver or check with the manufacturer for driver updates (I assume this is referring to my ASUS drivers I installed earlier and this is the latest drivers for it). Try changing Video adapters (Don't think I can do that...).

    Check with your hardware vendor for an BIOS updates (how do I do that?). Disable BIOS memory options such as caching or shadowing (why do I have to do this?). If you need to use Safe Mode to remove or disable components, restart you computer, press F8 to select Advance Startup Options, and then select Safe Mode (did that, tried to remove ASUS drivers I installed, but couldn't even find the entry in the Windows Add or Remve programs, so I'm stuck with this BSOD, unless I find some way to remove it).

    Technical information:

    ***STOP: 0x0000007E (0xC0000005,0xF709C184,0xf7A84D44,0xF7a84A40)

    ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

    And that's about all of what it said to me.

    So, is there a way to remove the ASUS drivers form my PC? Since there's no entry in the Add/Remove section of Windows.... Can I just use Driver Sweeper and delete the remains?
  14. GN48 Newcomer, in training Posts: 156

    Help!!!!!

    Please don't do this to me................. Someone; dividebyzero and Rick, you left me here to fend for myself, how could you? I though you guys were nice!
  15. Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,735   +27

    This issue might occur if a system thread generates an exception that the error handler does not catch. This exception can be caused by any of the following:

    * The computer BIOS might be incompatible with Windows XP, or it might have to be updated.
    * The video adapter drivers might be incompatible with Windows XP.
    * A device driver or a system service might be damaged.

    I'll advise you to start from updating your motherboard's bios, and then install the drivers;
  16. GN48 Newcomer, in training Posts: 156

    Thank god, someone at last! :wave:

    Hello there!

    Would you think reinstalling XP would solve this?

    I mean after reinstalling XP, I'll install the drivers.

    Or I could do what you said and, after reinstalling XP, I update my motherboard's BIOS and then install the drivers?
  17. hellokitty[hk] I'm a TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 3,999   +31

    GTA 4 is known to be an unhappy game, there is the possibility that it just doesn't like you.
  18. GN48 Newcomer, in training Posts: 156

    Huh?

    It's GTA SA! not GTA 4!

    Plus GTA SA was working perfectly fine when it wasn't modded. I guess it started when I updated my graphics card drivers and modded GTA SA.