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I think I got screwed

By marlenejojo1
Jul 12, 2009
  1. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 4,266   +42

    And who in hell uses the term "amd 2.0" anyway, self loathing amd fanboys I think.
     
  2. Rage_3K_Moiz

    Rage_3K_Moiz Sith Lord Posts: 7,291   +25

    I agree with red1776. Tell him to take whatever he's given you and return your busted (and stolen) parts and the money.
     
  3. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 4,266   +42

    This is why said to ask how much labor was, those parts are dirt cheap, i mean, like 2 large pizzas dirt cheap.
     
  4. 04ihegba

    04ihegba TS Rookie Posts: 57

    According to all my sources the Dell Dimension 300 comes with either a 2.66Ghz P4 or a £.0Ghz Celeron D, are yuo sure you have a Dimension 3000
     
  5. marlenejojo1

    marlenejojo1 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 37

    yes positive its a dell dimension 3000. I took the empty tower he gave back to another technician to see if the original motherboard was even malfunctioning to begin with and he couldnt test it because get this....the guy also took out my intel chip! I called him yet again and said I want that chip back, the dvd cdr back and anything else he is holding onto..which btw can you guys help me with this. What else should I look for that he could have taken on me?
     
  6. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 4,266   +42

    The psu, its not a huge deal I guess, but make sure he didnt swap your old one,
     
  7. marlenejojo1

    marlenejojo1 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 37

    what do you mean by psu and swap the old one? I need things spelled out cause im not that savy myself with computers lol
     
  8. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,914   +93

    that means make sure this rube didn't take your power supply...and give you a cheaper one
     
  9. strategic

    strategic TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,274

    Ok, sorry I've been off working and I seem to have created a 'nice thread' here. I run CAD/CAM software on my workstation, I remember discussing with the president of the software company about the processors. My computer at home has a 3.2 GHz processor, while my computer at work (which is newer) has a 1.74 GHz processor. My CAD/CAM software supports 64 bit, so in return, I'm using all the power the computer has to offer. Most programs out there do not support 64 bit, only 32 (like my comp @ home) so in return, you're not using the whole computer. So if I'm wrong, I have obviously been mislead, biut then, why were computers listed as 3.2 GHz before, and now (4 years later) only 2.4GHz??? As for the memory, yes you now probably have on-board graphics which takes up some of your RAM. On-board graphics is a little quicker, however you sacrificed it for the RAM...
     
  10. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 4,266   +42

    mhz doesnt translate to faster cpu, it use to, before the architecture got much more complex. Intel and amd both learned this after the p4/k8 era. 64 bit cpu support is backwards progressive to 32 bit, which I'm sure you know allows for a wide range of software old and new.
    You're making a common mistake that was done years ago, people adding the mhz of cores together, thinking it translate to double the speed ex, 2.4+2.4ghz=4.8(WRONG)

    CPU's have gotten so advanced that mhz alone cant/wont determine how much you can do with your pc. Lets take two 64 bit supported cpu's umm, the latest xeon(nahalem), and a xeon from 2007 on a lga775, if we were able to disable the cores, leaving just one, the newer xeon would outperform the older by around 45%, although they have the same Ghz speed.

    And what do you mean "onboard graphics are a little quicker?" Compared to what, a calculator?
     
  11. Rick

    Rick TechSpot Staff Posts: 6,305   +52 Staff Member

    This sounds dirty.

    I don't know about where you live (NY?), but in CA law prohibits computer technicians from taking customer-owned parts after upgrades, replacements etc... It wouldn't surprise me if this is the case in many other states.

    The replaced/removed parts have to be presented to the customer and signed off with an agreement (may be in the fine print that you may have had to sign), otherwise, he has no business taking your stuff and it is punishable by law.
     
     
  12. strategic

    strategic TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,274


    onboard anything is faster, but keep in mind you have to compare apples to apples. You'll always be able to get better audio or video if it's not onboard, but again, if you compare apples to apples, it's faster. Faster to communicate, therefore faster results :D
     
  13. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 4,266   +42

    my point was, what are you comparing onboard to. you said onboard is a little quicker. But quicker than what? Because the tier is onboard before add on/stand alone, and there's nothing before onboard to say its quicker than anything, its like saying the first person in line to a movie is before himself . Onboard is infact the weakest/slowest types of video/audio things on a motherboard, unless there's something like "inboard" in which little knomes put together puzzles for your monitors and sing into your speakers. I'm just trying to get your general understanding because you lost me.
     
  14. marlenejojo1

    marlenejojo1 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 37

    Yes I am in NY. How do I find out if it is illegal? He didnt have me sign anything except the credit card receipt. I did not authorize him to keep anything. He asked if I wanted my old tower back and I said yes. He did not tell me he took the intel chip from the motherboard another tech told me that when I went to have him examine my motherboard to see if there ever even was a problem with it to begin with but he couldnt because the intel chip was missing. The tech that took my parts did so without asking or even tellng me he did. I had called him and said first we want the dvd cdr back. He tried to tell me I did not have a dvd cdr but I told him that was bs we did to and he said well it looked like a reg cdr to him but I could have it back if I wanted...I said YES! I then called him later to tell him we know the intel chip was taken out of the motherboard and want that back to but he did not answer. He told me earlier he was in the hospital so I figured ok hes busy with that....but when he didnt answer the cell I called the shop and guess who answered the phone....he did. I then told him we want the chip back...he said no problem but he cant see me til weds night....we will see if he tries to pull anything more then. So help me out here, from what I understand you guys are telling me make sure I get my parts back....so the dvd cdr, the intel chip...and the only other thing I wonder about is the original ram...how do I know if he took that? It had 512MB buiilt in plus I added a stick to bring it over 1G only two weeks prior...brand new mem stick...how do I tell if that is what he put in the current tower he gave me or if he kept that too? Also anything else I should mention to him? You guys said do not accept any AMD athelon xp version correct, and if he insists on going with amd athelon then I want the 64 version which should say 3200 at least? Is that right? We kept the original windows installation during this whole process, and I read online that switching to another chipset, which by going from intel to AMD he did that...could cause problems with windows, so I am wondering if that is true should I just insist he get me either the same intel motherboard I had or intel 3.0 and if he cant refund me and give me all my stuff back?
     
  15. marlenejojo1

    marlenejojo1 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 37

    I dont know do I have everything down right? And no answer on my RAM question, how do I know he didnt take out my new memory stick and jam in an old one?
     
  16. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 4,266   +42

    Do you have the receipt of what kind of ram you first bought, if so you can tell what kind it is.

    Just spoke to my cousin that lives in NY, it is in fact illegal for him to keep your old parts. He was suppose to inform you(ask you) if you wanted the old parts and then make you sign off on them. Make sure that you tell him that if you dont receive everything back you will proceed to take legal action. That would surely make him replace anything.

    Its the same thing as car repair, although you always sign a receipt for car repair, fine print says they will keep the parts that are replaced by their shop, unless law prohibits them to do so.
     
  17. marlenejojo1

    marlenejojo1 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 37

    I dont have the receipt for what initially came in the pc when I first bough the computer but I do have the receipt from the upgrade of ram I just bought two weeks ago yes. I think it was hand written so it may not say exactly what kind it is but I can call that tech (the good one) and he will tell me what it was.
     
  18. marlenejojo1

    marlenejojo1 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 37

    I dunno can someone confrim what I said before, I want to make sure I got this right before I am faced with him lest her try to confuse me or make me look like I dont know what im talking about
     
  19. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 4,266   +42

    Just take your pc to him, tell him that you want your original parts back.
     
  20. marlenejojo1

    marlenejojo1 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 37

    Ok I got my old tech to try and run my original motherboard using a replacement chip in the meanwhile just to see if it was functioning. It did not. It got power but not full power and didnot light up properly so he told me yes it was damaged. I feel better knowing the shady tech at least did not make that up. Now I need to know what is easier for me to do....first can I find a replacement circuitboard that can handle my intel pentium4 2.8 prescottD 1M chip, or maybe another motherboard (chip included) just like I had? If so where do I look online to find if someone is selling those parts? If it is unlikely I can find a motherboard to support the chip I had (I read online that the prescott series although listed as compatible with some boards did not fit properly) then can I find another motherboard that is if not the same...up to par with what I had (2.8 CPU) and if so where do I look for that? I want as much cpu as I had before if not a slight upgrade, whichever is easier to find, but I dont know where to being looking. I am trying to be cost effective, if I can find the board I need I am hoping the sneaky tech will at least hook that up for me no additional charge and I wont be out as much money. It would be ideal if I could have something that would go with the chipset my windows installation is used to using so there is no conflict and so I do not have to reinstall windows and keep all my files without transfering them all.
     
  21. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,914   +93

  22. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 4,266   +42

    http://www.discountelectronics.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=2022

    here's your mobo, its guaranteed 90 days, only place I could find it at that price, this way you can use your old cpu, have the "old" tech guy(honest one) install the old chip for you and your other items. If you get the refund for your old stuff from the guy that gave you the crap athlon it should cost no more than 50 bucks to put it, puts you back around 150 dollars that you originally spent.
     
  23. fimbles

    fimbles TS Evangelist Posts: 1,284   +157

    Please delete
     
  24. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,914   +93

    marlenejojo needs a motherboard for a prescott pentium 2.8
     
  25. marlenejojo1

    marlenejojo1 TS Rookie Topic Starter Posts: 37

    not to sound like a technological ***** but what do you mean my mobo? I had a desktop pc. I dont understand the term im sorry lol
     
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