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i7 processor stock heatsink inadequate?

Discussion in 'Overclocking, Cooling and Modding' started by james7533, Aug 11, 2010.

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  1. james7533 Newcomer, in training

    I hear everyone saying that the stock fan that comes with the Intel i7 quad core processor is trash. I am looking for suggestions on which one to possibly upgrade to. I would like to slightly increase performance from 2.8GHz to around 3.2GHz. Nothing major but i would much rather be safe then have a melted CPU and short-circuited motherboard.
  2. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,802   +285

    This Cooler Master has received some rave reviews; http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...103065&cm_re=Hyper_212-_-35-103-065-_-Product

    Unfortunately Newegg has persisted in jacking up the price since that occurred.

    Microcenter has this at a walk-in price of about 30 dollars, if you're fortunate enough to live near one.

    I actually bought one of these from them, but never hung it, as my i3-530 runs so cool at stock speed, there doesn't seem to be much point. Keep in mind the 530 is only 73 watts TDP max (idles @ about 26 watts), your CPU is a bunch more. (130 Watts TDP).
  3. EXCellR8 The Conservative Posts: 2,273

    also keep in mind that i7 chips will run hotter than you're average quad core processor anyways, but i think the stock cooler coupled with some decent thermal compound would be adequate. but for what it's worth, i really hate the design of intel's coolers. they just sort of pop onto the motherboard and can be a real pain to remove sometimes. aftermarket is typically the way to go for overclocking though, so i would recommend upgrading.
  4. hellokitty[hk] I'm a TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,001   +31

    IMO, stock cooler should be sufficient for normal usage.
    Intel coolers scare me. Feels like I'm going to snap my motherboard putting them in.
  5. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,802   +285

    I can't speak to the rest of the industry practice, but my Gigabyte H-55 board is factory equipped with a stiffener plate under the CPU socket. I don't know how that would effect after market coolers with their own proprietary plates

    As to the rest of the "going to snap my motherboard" nonsense, all the "experts" at Newegg say the same thing, Nobody seems to actually break a board, they all just "think they're gonna"! I suppose it adds drama to the sometimes drudgery of "building" a computer.

    That said, many of the most popular after market coolers are equipped with the same push pins as a stock Intel cooler, so maybe we should all work through our fears, ey...?

    In a sort of oddity, every review I have read on an Intel stock cooler, has stated that the coolers work best with the Intel supplied thermal mat, rather than perhaps Arctic Silver. Hey, it must be true, it's on the internet right?
  6. hellokitty[hk] I'm a TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 4,001   +31

    I hope not; still scares me.
    Come to think of it, I've only put in one intel stock cooler. The AMD one I did was pretty easy.
     
  7. EXCellR8 The Conservative Posts: 2,273

    really? well to be honest i've only installed a handful of those pushpin style intel coolers, but it only took 1 or 2 to get me to hate them lol. it's not so much that i worry about damaging anything but the way they work is annoying. i always try to be as neat as possible with the thermal (because I'm anal like that) but i find that hard to do with those coolers. it's like you go to push one down and the adjacent one pops out. i'd much rather screw a cooler down to mounting brackets or a plate on the reverse side :)

    as for the intel thermal, i believe it's just arctic ceramique... which is decent but there are better options. i don't really like AC5 because of the set time, partial conductivity and that sometimes it likes to strand itself all over the damn place. my tube of TX-3 just arrived earlier; i'm going to use it with my i7 chip. at first glance it looks the same as TX-2 but it looks like they've improved the formula. it's a bit thinner and conductivity has improved by ~1.7W/mK.
  8. LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 4,180   +23

    I have a 920 d0 and c0/1 I've achieved 4ghz on both with the stock cooler keeping it below intels suggested temp. at 3.2 I dont think its worth upgrading. Unless you want to maintain a chilly 30-40C at 3.2
  9. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,802   +285

    But Smash, don't you think it would be cool, (pardon the pun), to have a nice big cooling tower affair on the CPU anyway? Just to let everybody know you mean business. And besides, what's wrong with 40 C under load...?
  10. LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Posts: 4,180   +23

    lol CC, ehh. Sure it would be cool. But I suppose I'd like to save someone money, especially since I can't seem to save any. 40C is great, especially if you live in a higher than average temp climate with no central cooling.
  11. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,802   +285

    With that being said, I didn't think anybody came here to save money. "Come to TS solvent, and leave in need of debt counseling", that's my motto. Besides,if Barack O'Bama is right, all you have to do is print enough money to get yourself out of the economic doldrums. It works like this, you hire 500 more people at the U.S.Mint to print money, bingo, crisis solved, unemployment averted. So, not buying an aftermarket cooler would be downright unpatriotic!, Well, unless you don't live in the US to begin with.

    Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go and figure out what all those initials meant that ExCellR8 was bandying about. It's a real SNAFU I tell ya...!:rolleyes:
  12. EXCellR8 The Conservative Posts: 2,273

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_conductivity

    ...i assume that's what you mean :D
  13. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,802   +285

    Gee, thanks! Now my eyes just glazed over, then rolled back in my head....:haha: :wave:
  14. dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,098   +200

    That would explain the pop-ups then...
    [IMG]
  15. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,802   +285

    Now that's really priceless. Where do you find the time to come up with this s***...?

    An idle mind is the internet's playground, you know.

    My "neighbor" pointed out to me exactly what the "thrust" of the O'Bama campaign was, "Vote fo O'Bama, he be fo' change"...! :rolleyes: OK, so why do I never get change fo' a twenty any mo'...?

    And we still have the dependence on foreign lubricants, perhaps moreso, if you know what I mean....
  16. dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,098   +200

    A close-knit bunch of guys I went to (high)school, and grew up with. All, what you might term "inquiring minds". We've all gone our seperate ways, taking a variety of paths, but all keep in contact and send on various non-mainstream items of interest. The little jpg above comes from a site that a friend (political scientist...New Zealand government think-tank <<oxymoron) with an interest in agitprop pointed me toward.
  17. captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 8,802   +285

    Anyway, despite that foray off the beaten track here, I recommend an aftermarket HSF for your machine. The logic is this, you can run it too hot, but you can never run it too cool. If the machine plops along at 40 C while tasking, I'd be thrilled. I set my BIOS CPU temp warnings @ 60c, and during our 100 F + heatwave, they tripped, this using a very modest aftermarket HSF, with a Matx case G41 Matx board, and a Pent dual core E6300. A few wires were rerouted, and the front fan cranked up to max, goodbye nasty case speaker noise.

    If you can get the Cooler Master tower I pointed out at a reasonable price, grab one, otherwise invest into something more exotic. The cooler it runs, the longer it lives, period. The bottom line here is, you've invested into a fairly high end machine, why cheap out now?
  18. EpicPie Newcomer, in training Posts: 55

    I believe the stock Intel core i7 heatsinks for the 1366 socket i7's can run the CPU at 4Ghz.
  19. dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,098   +200

    "can" does not in mean "should".
    Example ( Core i7 at 2.66GHz, 3.42GHz, 3.8GHz). And here's an article on electromigration
  20. EXCellR8 The Conservative Posts: 2,273

    bottom line... stock clocks=stock cooler, overclocking=aftermarket cooler or stock lapping