Installing windows

By dam900
Aug 3, 2005
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  1. dam900

    dam900 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 26

    lol you will not beleive this... windows 98 can't support/read 2 gigs of ram... so i took one out and so far it is working!! Now just to get win 98 set up and then try and upgrade it to xp... I am going to sleep now i will find my product key in the morning and tell you guys how it is going.
  2. zellyman

    zellyman Newcomer, in training Posts: 59

    Im glad you got it working XD, let us know how it went!
  3. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,120

    You should not have to install 98 and then upgrade to XP just to get anything to work. Something may still be an issue. Try loading your XP also with some RAM removed. And do the memtest86 already!

    And yes, Windows 98 can not work with a lot of RAM, matter of fact, anything above maybe 768 and it will probably work SLOWER then having 512 or less. Because 98 had such sucky memtory management, it spends MORE time managing memory then using it, thus slowing the system down!
  4. dam900

    dam900 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 26

    i tried to do the memtest but i couldn't get it working... I told it to install and it said insert floppy, so i did and click enter and then it said that it didn't work. I am going to try it again though all this freezing is annoying me. Also i can't start win 98 normally because of an issue with my comp being over 2.2 ghz and win 98 doesn't like it so i constacted microsoft for the fix they have, but i can start win 98 in safe mode (no cds in that though) So i am going to try the memtest again now and see what it turns up.

    Edit: i don't know how to run the memtest i have got my disk but i can't boot off it, it just starts win 98, and i can't start it from win 98 or from dos because as it says it doesn;t run from either one it needs to boot from it. Boot order has floppy first by the way. And when ever i start it says remove disks or other media. So i can't do the memtest unless one of you know how to make it work for me.
  5. dam900

    dam900 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 26

    i am wondering it is a 64 bit processor... and everything on it supports em64... does that mean i have to use windows xp pro x64??
  6. dam900

    dam900 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 26

    This is my current situation:

    Everything is new. the xp cd i chose the one that is the lest scratched (not scratched at all) i have a dvd rom x8 plugged in a dvd-burner 16x8x16 plugged in and a floppy disk plugged in.

    The mobo is an al-8 from a-bit. http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=281
    The only things on this comp that are not brand new are the floppy drivce and the dvd-rom x8.

    Win 98 installed can't run in normal mode because of processor being above 2.2 ghz, have 1 of the 2 1 gig sticks plugged in because win 98 doesn't like to much memory. When i try and install win xp it loads all the files get to "setup is starting windows" goes one screen beyond that and freezes (sometimes it restarts). Both partision i have made are formatted (by using fdisk). As a side note when i install windows xp it doesn't detect that win 98 is installed. I am going to download the trial of win xp pro x64 and try and install that see how it goes.

    The computer is
    intel 630 3.0 ghz 800 mb fsb EM64 enabled HT enabled
    2 gigs of ddr2 ram (pc 4200 / 533 mhz) dual channal enabled (only one stick is in now)
    dvd rom x8
    dvd-burner 16x8x16
    floppy drive
    250 gig sata drive (250 gig manufacturers terms, about 203 gigs microsofts terms i think), split up into 2 partision each one turns out to be about 98 gigs
    Ati radeon x800 with 256mb of gddr3 memory PCI express

    That is all the information i beleive that i have for you, ask any more questions if you think i have missed something and if it will help please.
  7. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,120

    That system is probably to much muscle for 98. Let's concentrate and just getting XP to work.

    You are loading the correct SATA drive during setup right? Are you using the floppy that CAME with your motherboard? When XP looks on your floppy for a driver, how many drivers does it list and what are they?
    After you have XP format the partition, make sure you leave the sata floppy driver in the case because XP may go back and read it again later during setup.

    Download the hard drive tools from whatever manufacturer your HDD is. All the big names have a boot floppy you can make to test the drive out.

    As for memtest86, once a valid, i.e. non corrupt, floppy is made, it just boots strait into the test and starts testing without you having to do anything. If you have the floppy in the drive and the PC just says to remove it, then it is not bootable. And thus, not correct. Try burning the ISO image instead. Or get a new floppy disk. Or do a FULL format of your floppy, maybe even a scandisk too, and then run the memtest install again.

    I am curious to see how the x64 XP will install. I'm thinking your XP is having trouble loading or using either your hard drive (to large), or maybe the x800 PCI-X. Is your install disk XP Home or Pro? I think you said Home. What service pack is in it? If you can, try to get a XP Service Pack 2 CD.

    cheers
  8. Liquidlen

    Liquidlen TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,646

    It sounds like you are using an XP upgrade cd. If so you do not need to install 98 . Just boot the Xp , eventually you will get a window asking for a qualifying O/S. put the 98 disk in and point the browse window to it ,click o.k then you will be prompted to replace the XP and continue.
  9. Agent Ify

    Agent Ify Newcomer, in training Posts: 36

    Do you happen to have a pirated copy of windows xp? I had one of those and i had the same freezing problem so i went out and bought a legal copy and it worked fine
  10. dam900

    dam900 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 26

    i know that i don't need windows 98 installed... but i installed it so that i could have one version of windows on there because windows xp wasn't working. It is an ugrade CD and the point where it always freezes is right before the point where it asks me to insert the win 98 CD. No it is not a pirated copy of windows xp it is a "genuine" disk.
  11. dam900

    dam900 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 26

    as for all your suggestions vigilante i will work on those and respond later, iam not thhinking very well right now.
     
  12. Liquidlen

    Liquidlen TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,646

    75 Celcius is Too hot for Intel ,My 3.06 default shutdown is 75C.
    You really want to re-do the seat & thermal paste on that box.
  13. dam900

    dam900 Newcomer, in training Topic Starter Posts: 26

    it is fixed i wiped the hard drive and bought anew copy of windows reseated all teh devises and it worked.
  14. lendo

    lendo Newcomer, in training

    Sata

    First what hard drive and second for a sata drive why are you going to f6, is it attached to a raide device if not you don't need to install anything extra for sata drives
  15. Vigilante

    Vigilante TechSpot Paladin Posts: 2,120

    Glad it's working with the new copy of Windows. Must have been something in the disk to drive relationship department.

    Sucks that you had to buy Windows all over, ouch.
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