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Intel quietly slips out Core i7-930, future for 920 uncertain

By Matthew
Mar 8, 2010
  1. Intel has quietly introduced a new processor to the Core i7 family. The Core i7-930 offers a minor step up from the 920 -- both in specs and price. According to Intel's official price sheet, the 930 is priced at $294, while the 920 is $284. Newegg is currently selling the chips for a $6 difference at $294.99 and $288.99.

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  2. cyrusjumpjet

    cyrusjumpjet TS Member Posts: 93

    Meh... the 920 has already held out for a surprisingly long time. I built my system with an i7 920 in December of 08 and I'm happy to see that it's still one of the best selling CPUs on the market. At the very least, I think the speed increases that the 930 brings looks good on paper.
     
  3. EduardsN

    EduardsN TS Rookie Posts: 56

    I would like to see this compared to the i7 920 on some benchmarks,
     
  4. TomSEA

    TomSEA TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,369   +405

    Kind of odd that they would introduce something that is near identical to an existing processor and for a whopping $6 more. What's the point?

    And agreed about the i7-860.
     
  5. Fotis

    Fotis TS Rookie

    This is managerial issues... Intel tries to sell more trying to cover different and more extensive variety of users... All ix series have something different. Different sockets, different memory controllers core frequencies and caches. But, this tends to be more confusing I believe.
     
  6. Vrmithrax

    Vrmithrax TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,286   +232

    They probably tweaked some manufacturing processes, made a few in-roads, and decided this was the product they would continue to produce until the end of the generation cycle. It's not worth a big number change, but a subtle one to indicate slight increases in performance makes sense.

    At least they're not repackaging this retooling of the current gen as a next gen processor with a deceptive new numbering tier, like some other manufacturers we know <cough> <cough> <nVidia> <cough>
     
  7. seefizzle

    seefizzle TS Enthusiast Posts: 137   +31

    Is there a real point to this upgrade? I mean it's nothing mindblowing here. Definitely nothing to warrant buying a whole new processor. But I guess for the people like me who buy the best processor they can get when building a new machine it's a way to eek out another 9 dollars.
     
  8. raie_noire

    raie_noire TS Rookie Posts: 19

    These chips are way too expensive.. As a student I have no where near the amount of money to get one of these things and upgrade the computer.
     
  9. slh28

    slh28 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,925   +170

    Intel have already "quietly introduced" upgraded versions of their other i7 9xx series processors and phased out the earlier versions so it would seem that the 930 is pretty much just a replacement for the 920.

    These processors are still too expensive though and cost the same, if not more than when they were first released. Same goes for the X58 mobos. AMD need to inject some competition into the high end!
     
  10. ludoboss

    ludoboss TS Rookie Posts: 18

    Its clear. Atm Intel has (or seems have) a great advantage. Intel aim to kill Amd as fast as possible. This appear the only field where if this happen we however have a benefit. The truth is that the hardware upgrade is going 3 time fast than software.
     
  11. compdata

    compdata TechSpot Paladin Posts: 604

    I saw this sometime last week, and it does look interesting. It did kind of sway my thoughts more to the 900 series then the 860 which i had been contemplating. I am kind of waiting to see how the hexacore chips turn out first though.
     
     
  12. natefalk

    natefalk TS Rookie Posts: 78

    I would be interested in seeing some benchmarks compared to the i7 860. They might have been thinking that the 920 doesn't improve enough on the 860 (in terms of performance) and they want more people going to the 1366. They release a 930 so people who are comparing benchmarks see that the 930 is better and go with 1366 socket.

    I ran into this a couple months ago when I was deciding on a socket for my new PC. Everywhere I read said the 860 was just as good, if not better, than the 920 and on a cheaper platform. So I went with the 1156 in the end.
     
  13. CodePhoeniX

    CodePhoeniX TS Rookie Posts: 36

    I am debating on which to get, the phenom II x6 or an i7
    I estimate the top end x6 to be $300 and i think the i7 930 will still preform better than the x6.
     
  14. Eddo22

    Eddo22 TS Enthusiast Posts: 160   +6

    Right now clock speed is what matters for AMD. So getting a quad core @ 3.4ghz is probably better than a six core at 2.8ghz (which is apparently the fastest six core due at the time).
     
  15. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,967   +955

    Dude, it probably is a 920.
     
  16. princeton

    princeton TS Addict Posts: 1,716

    But it is a nice increase over the 920s pathetic 2.66GHZ.
     
  17. Wagan8r

    Wagan8r TS Guru Posts: 593   +47

  18. captaincranky

    captaincranky TechSpot Addict Posts: 10,967   +955

    Oh, I'm on board with that. Let Intel do the overclocking, as long as they honor the warranty.

    Pathetic is kind of harsh though. That said, I am looking forward to using the faster one that I'm sure you're going to design.
     
  19. ToastOz

    ToastOz TS Rookie Posts: 59

    Everyone knows Intels Golftown and possibly all other new processors are going to be running on the LGA 1366 So although the core LGA 1156 i7 860 is cheaper it won't be upgradable. Also dual channel memory of the LGA 1156 compared to triple channel memory of LGA 1366 shows that performance of the 860 is actually slower than the 920 in most benchmarking.

    The new faster 930 will be nice for the price and I laugh at people saying that the 920's 2.67ghz is pitiful when I'm currently running my 920 clocked at 4ghz+ (Do stepping with only 1.231v on the core) with my ice cold water cooler keeping temps lower than standard 2.67ghz clocks with a intel default cooler(65 deg cel max with prime95 4 hours). Plus the tipple channel memory gets a 7.9 out of 7.9 in Win 7 score (1600mhz 6gig with xmp active).

    Although I do agree if you don't overclock this 930 from intel is great for you as it's automatically overclocked for you and gives you the chance to upgrade to later cpus down the track. :D
     
  20. CodePhoeniX

    CodePhoeniX TS Rookie Posts: 36

    There will be a 3.6ghz phenom II quad core around the time of the X6 launch
    That was also one of my considerations.

    However if the X6's turbo boost (idk what it is called exactly) is 800MHz then i will probably go the 6core route.
     
  21. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,105   +18

    I don't see this as anything weird. If a person already has a 1366 MOBO, chances are they have the 920 already. Why spend an extra $300 on something more or less similar?

    If you're going to build a new rig, of course you'd go for the newer chip. Its been over a year, I expect a new chip, really.

    But the 920 is awesome. On air cooling I got it up to 3.8 although I had heat problems in the case, I just installed a H50 and I'm running at 3.66 which runs as cool as at 2.66 on air.

    Going to start ratcheting it up once I let the cooler break in a little more.
     
  22. ToastOz

    ToastOz TS Rookie Posts: 59

    Don't forget good T.i.M I'm using that thermal paste made out of diamonds it made a huge difference in dropping temps about 5-10 deg for me, even the artic silver 5 paste is great stuff.

    It's good how cpu manufacturers allow for performance increases in there products a lot of the older cpus 10-20% was about all they could improve before errors. Possibly to do with the smaller Die sizes of the cores hopefully the trend continues with 32nm processors.
     
  23. Renegeek

    Renegeek TS Rookie Posts: 96

    I think intel is doing a great job, on improveing on the processors, it gives people different choices, for speeds, and i think they are trying to beat AMD for going Green. so may posibilties...
     
  24. seefizzle

    seefizzle TS Enthusiast Posts: 137   +31

    I bought AMD simply because I didn't want to pay the intel tax. I have the Phenom II X4 965, 3.4 ghz processor. It can handle anything I throw at it.
     
  25. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,941   +725

    The primary difference between the 920 and 930 is likely to be the bugs (and fixes) that that are inherent in most (if not all) CPU's.
    Intel make this information available and relatively easy to access from their site- at http://download.intel.com/design/processor/specupdt/320836.pdf
    in the case of the i7 920 and 930. Contrary to popular belief a new stepping for a CPU isn't primarily aimed at better overclocking.

    There is a possibility I suppose that the 920 is being discontinued because the latest revision (the Newegg/IPEX Special Edition) has less than stellar performance when pitted against the slightly better performing Phenom II (JK)
     
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