intel vs amd?

Oops forgot to put this in

I can get the P4 640 3.2Ghz for the same price

better idea for gaming right? lol

If you spend $230 on a mobo you might as well have the best, ASUS P5WD2-E Premium, and Crossfire.

Nvidias Intel chipsets are not very good, if you look at the 3Dmark05 ORB, the top Intel SLi is on a P5WD2 with hacked drivers. If you realy want SLi, AMD is the best way to go, untill nvidia bites the bullet and enables their drivers for i975 chipsets like ATi did.

A 930 is better than a 640 at anything, really.

$230? mwave has it priced at $89

or is Royal a certain type, mwave doesnt have it listed but i havnt found anything but the Royal on the web

I just froogled it,
http://froogle.google.com/froogle?c...G=Google Search&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wf
Most prices are in that range.

I went to mwave and searched for the board seperately, and its saying the Gigabyte 8N-SLI Royal costs $87

http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec.hmx?scriteria=BA22173

Nice price. Don't expect stelar overclocks with a 930 on it, the nForce 4 Intel only will do like 250mhz bus. A 805 may just shine on there, but I don't really know.

eh im not a huge overclocker..the most ive done is with an old Slot A processor i got from 400mhz to 500mhz i think...otherwise ive been getting old computers from Compaq/Hp that offer no overclocking what so ever lol

what makes you think that they won't exceed Conroe's performance??

I have no doubt that if lost, AMD will take back the performance crown alot sooner than you think

yay

I've made my final decision...im going with AMD


now my only decision is which...im going to stick with the AMD64 939 line...so my options for my budget are going to be the 3000+ (Venice, $110) 3200+ (Venice, $128) 3500+ (Venice, $186) and the 3800+ (San Diego, $216)


Now for the 3000+ through 3500+ im planning on getting the DFI LP UT NF4 SLi-D...or dish out the extra for the SLi-DR...or maybe save $20 and go for the Ultra-D



Anyways, my new question is which wolud i get best performance out, our which could i overclock the most on the stock (or ill buy a heatsink if needed) heatsinks.

That is a great motherboard. With 3000+ and some good memory you can have a awesome setup. Freezer Pro 64, XP 90, and Tuniq Tower 120 are very good HSFs. Honestly 2.5-2.7ghz is very doable, even with the stock HSF. How cool it runs is realy the best thing about AMD's K8, next to hypertransport. Freezer Pro 64, XP 90, and Tuniq Tower 120 are very good HSFs.

Ok, with the memory (especially on the 3000+) i could go up to possibly 2Gb within my budget, question is, Crucial or Corsair? I heard Corsair can give off a lot more heat then Crucial

I have not heard od a venice running that fast before, where have you seen this? 2.7GHz on a venice3000+???? i run a venice E3 3000+, they run stock at 1.8GHz, i got mine up to 2115MHz but that is as high as I could go (my mobo's voltage cannot go past 1.45v without a physical soldered voltage mod which i haven't attemped yet).

at stock speeds with stock HSF they will idle in the 20's and load in the low 30's (well below the max temps), so you wont have to buy a new HSF unless you want it to run quieter

I've heard good things about Mushkin...

Prob read a few reviews is your best bet.

I'm lucky, somehow my 2 x 512 Generic DDR400 runs at 250MHz!!!
(I am saving up for some better RAM)

I can vouch for the Arctic cooler pro 64 - works a treat & quite inexpensive.

Opterons are worth a look, I got the 144 @2700MHz stable as a rock.
It boogies!

***King cody - use a RAM divider, I bet thats whats holding you back....
ie instead of 2/2 , try 2/1.83 or 2/1.66 then increase the FSB.
You also have to change the Hypertransport to 3 or 4 (Keep it under 1000, ie 240FSB x 4HT = 960) lock the PCI speed, and you'll have some more luck.

someone on bleedinedge.com said that got there 3000+Venice to run at 2.6Ghz on the DFI Sli-D

thanks, I had assumed that it was the voltage that was holding me back. I'll try changing the RAM divider and see what happens

P.S. sorry for thread-jacking

overclocking

Allot of people have 3000+ at 9x300mhz.

Here is my 3200+ at 10x280mhz


It's not that hard. There I have memory set 5:4 (166mhz), the HTT at 3x, Vcore at 1.55(my Asrock DualSATA2 reads Vcore wrong and it has the mod.) Now I upgraded to 2x1024mb OCZ Platimun form that 2x512 mb OCZ Gold VX I can't go that fast any more and my timings are much looser. I had it to 2.9ghz, but not stable.

If you want help PM me with a link to a thread and we will get it running. :grinthumb

nicely done lol

i jsut went through some newegg ads last night since i was bored...and i tracked the prices of the processors for everymonth *only had january 2004-december 2004 though* and according to the info i got...there should be a 20% price drop in the amd processors next month because of the AM2

or would the AM2 not affect it at all? just wondering bc if tis right the 3000+ will cost under 100 :grinthumb

Prices will go down soon. I think AM2 an the X2s are way over priced, but the Semprons look nice. Conroe is cheap, fast, and efficient. So July will change things. AMD will have no choice but to lower prices because a $530 E6700 will our perform a $1200 FX-62.

whoaa i just read an articly about the new Dell XPS systems...and they said that its a Conroe with Quad SLi Machine...WHAT???


is this the system that will eat up Oblivion? haha

just a thought

Run over to Tom's and check this out: http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/05/10/dual_41_ghz_cores/index.html

Might open some eyes?? :angel: