intel vs amd?

its still a Dell

My son's P5P800 died and I bought a P5P800 SE off ebay for $51 to replace it. It supports the 805, but I'll pass and get a Conroe. I'll need mobo, DDR2, and a PCI-E video card for Conroe too. It would be nice if the SE will support the E4200, it has a 800mhz FSB and expected to cost $170.

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Yeah, the Conroe would be nice ( I've heard they'll be using strictly numbers, no names, on that line), but to fixed incomers like me, there's a HUGE difference between $550 and $130. I have an ECS 915P-A sittin around empty, so I'll rate the 805 after I can scrape up the rest of the parts.

Just that a dual-core near 4GH processor at that price is hard to pass up, for me. On a personal note- what went south on your son's P5P? I happen to be on one right now! :knock: :grinthumb

Im not certain, the smell came from the south bridge. He opened the DVD-RW and it just turned off, and never on again. When I forced it to turn on it made a stink. Was it the burner, the PSU, or just the mobo that did it? I really don't know. I hope it was the just the mobo.

Hey

Does anyone know what socket the Conroe processer will use? Will it use S775, or will we have to wait for a raft of new mobos to be released before we can set up Conroe systems?

Want to build a new desktop rig, but I'm loth to get a S775 mobo if that won't work with a Conroe with the time is right, know what I mean?!

It will use LGA 775, but a new CPU voltage regulator circuit is needed so new revisions of the motherboards are coming. The only mobo that is ready now that I now of it the Intel D975xBX revision 304. I would not dare order one, because you may get a older one. But there are mods here. freecablegay has a thread about compatibilite mobos here. He has a Conroe ES and has sold some to others at XS. The only other motherboards I've seen it used on is a MSI i975x that is not released, and a Dell G965 sample, all at XtremeSystems Forum. Two have been overclocked to 4GHz.

Check out this AM2 review, they have a Conroe to comapire it too. :bounce:
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=5692&page=1

Nice one! Thanks very much. In that case I'll get a new gfx card and some more RAM and stick with my current setup for another 12-18 months

Conroe ownz

I love this,

K8L is comming some time early next year, first to the 65nm FX. It may or may not be faster than Core. Nobody knows yet.

amd vs intel intel sucks

I think amd all the way had intel 2.8 ghz pentium 4 1 mb cache 800mhz fsb sucked too much heat and slow now i have a athlon xp 2600+ 256k cache much faster 266mhz bus i love amd they are the best

haha well this topic has been fun...ive learned a lot from this and my parents are getting sick of me changing what im buying but hopefully what im picking now well keep me going for a while (little upgrades here and there of course)

new article on tomshardware. Apparently there's nothing much AMD is coming out to "counter" the Conroe invasion. SLI-memory seems to be the only option, but as of the moment, memory bandwidth tests at toms seems bleak.

Need some head on comparisons before we make our conclusions, so stay tuned!

Hexus has the head on, Conroe will be king. Intel is holding back on the clocks and have more if AMD puts up much of a fight. K8L is really the only hope AMD has, it comes in H107. By then Kentsfield(core quad) and a 1333 FSB XE will be out.

AMD is a dead company then I assume?

I suppose AMD might be backed into the office computer category (not that its completely bad for them of course). Its energy efficiency is a huge plus in an environment where processor speeds don't matter so much.

Either way, I think there's still a future in AMD in the enthusiast computing category. Its main problems so far is shifting to DDR2, which should be expected. Intel has been using DDR2 for 2 years, no wonder the memory bandwidth tests are bleak.

I'll just wait for everything to settle down (including the price).

No AMD is going to be fine. They still have four socket severs in the the bag and that's good money. Then there are so many gamers that love AMD and just plain hate Intel that will still be buying. Thier price must come down, if it gets low enough my DualSATA2 my get a AM2 X2(more likely a used 939 X2 off ebay :haha: .) AMD is just going in the red I think. 2008 is going to be fun, Intel is going CSI. It's something like AMD's HT.

Either way, the arrow is pointing towards Intel beating the crappers out of AMD in terms of performance. Not saying it'll definately be better, but its very suggestive.

However, knowing the way these companies work, we probably won't get the Conroes for cheap, we'd still have to pay for the computing power. I want to see the overclocking potential

Expected prices are here,
http://www.techspot.com/vb/post255420-3.html

Best overclock I'v seen is here,
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1463817&postcount=154

And those clocks pack some punch, at 2.66 it's 20% faster than a X2 at 2.8 so 4ghz is like a X2 at 5ghz!

There ya go, Intel's gonna have AMD for brekky.

Anyway, thats expected prices, personally I expect the prices to be a little higher than that when its released. Just business tactics: why sell for less when you can get more? Thats alot more computing power for alot less, doesn't make good business sense at all.

Intel's 65nm give them a good advantage, they will be selling allot of them, and that law suite form AMD about unfair competition--well now they are going to get some "fair" compitition. :haha:

:laugh:

45nm, where art thou?!?

Pushed on to 2008. ;(