Long time coming... PC buildin' time!

By LinkedKube
Oct 10, 2012
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  1. Dawn1113

    Dawn1113 TechSpot Booster Posts: 375   +64

    Going for an overhaul with an "overkill" objective once every three years sounds like a fantastic -- and ultimately sensible -- upgrade program to me. I imagine it takes some discipline, though.

    I would agree with xcylent on the GPUs. Three or four 4gb 680s sounds so sick it gives me the goosebumps! But yeah, I think you'll need some VRAM to play at the resolutions you want -- and on a multi-monitor setup at that.

    I'd sure love to see pics of this big, beautiful monster once it is up and running. Sounds like it's going to be one kickass rig.
  2. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Topic Starter Posts: 4,259   +41

    I've order a cross desk from redharbringer. Been watching this guy with a prototype for 2 years. Cost me 1900 bucks but the desk is too cool. He opened up ordering for a week, but I wont get mine until December :(

    http://redharbinger.com/
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  3. LNCPapa

    LNCPapa TS Special Forces Posts: 4,199   +229

    L3P's desk is incredible - I'm glad he's trying to commercialize it.
  4. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,082   +1,184

    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
    That is awesome!!!

    Are the two PC's independent or can they function as one? I'm wondering what uses there are in having two complete machines in one monstrous housing.
  5. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Topic Starter Posts: 4,259   +41


    The new one is for a little of everything and I do have a media center.
  6. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,364   +9

    Have you considered 2 7970s in crossfire? they have 3GB frame buffer and cost a lot less than the 680s and are just as fast.
  7. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Topic Starter Posts: 4,259   +41


    Nope I haven't, but I'll definately look into it.
  8. slh28

    slh28 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,925   +170

    Considering your budget I'd go with your original idea of 4GB 680 SLI, I can tell you first hand that 7970 CF suffers pretty badly from microstuttering in some games, and given that this is a no expenses spared build you don't want to be let down by microstuttering or bad driver support.
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  9. klepto12

    klepto12 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,364   +9

    There are 6GB versions of the 7970 and crossfire scales better than sli so idk what you mean slh28. Micro stutter has not really been a problem for most people in a long time.
  10. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,700   +586

    Sure are...the Toxic and Vapor-X are available (on occasion) - the larger frame buffer won't help with microstutter. It would help with extreme resolutions when using higher levels of game I.q.
    Unless LK is planning on keeping the cards for a while (in which case I'd suggest a reference design + waterblock), I'd look at a GTX 670 4GB - $120 (or more) cheaper than the equivalent GTX 680/HD 7970 with comparable performance, which means recouping a bigger chunk of the initial outlay when the GK 114/HD 8000 arrives in March (give or take). This is also the timeframe for the GeForce version of the GK 110 -if it eventuates after HPC orders are filled.
    While true as a general rule, when Crossfire fails it usually fails big time- so something to note is how long it takes for multi-GPU driver fixs to appear
    That depends on if you notice it in game- some do, some don't. The fact that it exists is not a matter for dispute
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  11. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,700   +586

    Sorry for the double post. For some reason, editing the post above I couldn't add links.

    So, as for the build...
    CPU: i7-3930K @ $570
    Mobo: Asus R4F @ $370
    RAM: 32GB (4x8G) Corsair DDR3-1866C10 @ $190. A little overkill but cheap enough. I know from first hand experience that this kit works fine with the R4F/R4E
    GPU: 2 x EVGA GTX 670 SuperClocked 4GB @ $860
    GPU blocks: 2 x Aquacomputer AquagraFX GTX 670 @ $218
    LGA 2011 CPU block: XSPC Raystorm Copper w/aluminium hold down bracket @ $95 (conversely a standard delrin top Raystorm + aluminium hold down @ $65 total). The standard delrin Raystorm ships with a plexi hold down plate which can flex under pressure- doesn't instill a lot of confidence. Standard Raystorm w/ supplied 2xblue LED's (can be swapped out for any other 3mm light colour), and with the optional aluminium hold down as fitted to my Z77

    If you're looking at blocking the board I'd suggest going with the Rampage IV Extreme since there are no full cover blocks for the Formula. (EK's block set $118)

    Should run you about $2k ( 2-and-a-half for tri-SLI). Should leave some budget for storage, RAID card if needed etc.
    As for monitor- 30" 2560x1600, I guess the ubiquitous U3011 @ $1100, or if the anti-glare coating on the Dell is a problem, a Korean iCinema clone. The Crossover features DisplayPort as well as HDMI, DL-DVI, Component etc. Only a one year warranty though, although eBay offer an extended warranty...for a few extra dollars naturally
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  12. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Topic Starter Posts: 4,259   +41

    I really like corsair ram when budget isn't an issue. I'd be willing to use another 670 even though I know there's only a 20% increase in frame rates in the best situations. Need the gpu setup, motherboard, and ram to last at least another 2-3 years.
  13. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,700   +586

    A tri-SLI might not do too much for your overall framerate, but it should smooth out the gameplay- both raising minimums and reducing any microstutter, although at 2560x1600 there should still be instances where you can gain more than incrementally in GPU power while not running into CPU limitation.
     
  14. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Topic Starter Posts: 4,259   +41

    Yeah I know tri sli wont help the bottom line TOO much, but I am concerned with another 30" monitor upgrade one day.
  15. slh28

    slh28 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,925   +170

    It's pretty bad in Dirt Showdown and Sleeping Dogs. It's not unplayably bad, but it is definitely noticeable and annoying. FPS's like BF3 seem fine for the most part though.

    You can't really game on an even number of monitors, there will be bezels right in the middle of your FOV. So you'd be looking at 7680x1600, and from what I've seen no existing setup (not even OC'd Quadfire 7970) can run that maxing all games out there. But if you're only playing MMOs then 4GB 670 SLI might be able to do that resolution.
  16. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Topic Starter Posts: 4,259   +41

    @ slh28 ,TBH all the mmo's I've played I just go in windowed mode on one screen of my setup. Rift, Aion, GW2, and Lol. Haven't tried to play anything across both screens in a long while. I didn't think about your above post and the issues concerning a bezel or two or four... Again this is the reason why I'm here to make sure I don't skimp on on the small stuff.
  17. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Topic Starter Posts: 4,259   +41


    I'm looking into the monitor you suggested, also experience with my 305t samsumg 30" I think I'll pay for that extended warranty.

    Anyone have experience with duel or even trip 30" monitors? Wondering if the jump in resolution will kill my setup from 27" 1080P Asus monitors.
  18. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,120   +732

    Dude!!! Ivy bridge E incoming, wait a bit!!!
  19. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,120   +732

    warranties arent that crucial with monitors... it costs more to repair than to buy
  20. slh28

    slh28 TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,925   +170

    No it's not, it's coming after Haswell so Q3 13 at the earliest. Even if it was coming out in the next couple of months a 3930K build wouldn't be a bad idea because IB-E uses the same 2011 socket as SB-E.
  21. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,700   +586

    The Crossover? The Korean monitors really are a nice option ( Yamakasi Leonidas, Achieva Shimian QH300 both have the same panel), although the sweet spot are the 27" 2560x1440 models - I think the general feeling is that 3 x 27" both works out more cost effective, the model range is greater- a few of which happily run at 85-100Hz refresh (The Yamakasi Catleap 2B is 120+Hz capable- see LNCPapa's posts for some more info), and being non-scalar have very low input lag. I notice nil difference between by Achieva Shimian 2560x1440 S-IPS and a VS or Asus 24" 1980x1080 with supposed 2ms GTG response.
    Check out the enthusiast forums (EVGA forum thread >>here<< Same setup you'd be looking at. 7680x1600, tri (and quad) SLI'ed GTX 670 4GB.
    7680x1600/1440 is still too esoteric for the most part, so your best bet might be the pro benchmarking crowd at EVGA, OCN, XS etc.
  22. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,120   +732

    nope, it is Q1 13 if I am not mistaken. :). it has full pci e certification and it is rumored to have 8 cores
  23. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,082   +1,184

    So it was released a few months ago then?
  24. JC713

    JC713 TechSpot Evangelist Posts: 6,120   +732

    I meant 13 xD lol
  25. LinkedKube

    LinkedKube TechSpot Project Baby Topic Starter Posts: 4,259   +41

    Sounds nuts! Thinking I should hold off for a month or so then?


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