Microsoft backtracks: Drops daily check-ins, used games restrictions on Xbox One
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avoidz
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I wonder if this was a cunning plan by Microsoft to win over gamers. Did they really think those offensive restrictions wouldn't cause an uproar? It did and they back-flipped. Perfect entry.
jonelsorel
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"...so now you won't have to pay extra fees if you gift or share your game copy..." - REALLY?! What mind taken straight from an Orwell novel ever came up with this concept of paying a manufacturer/producer TWICE for a product? This not only goes against any kindergarden level logic, but against the right to PROPERTY! The one that says, I BUY IT IT IS MINE. Cheeky ba$tards, changed your mind after the Amazon poll? Here's my BOYCOTTING Microsoft for even THINKING of doing this! And any other company that shares this mentality.
GhostRyder
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If they have taken it back, I highly doubt they are going to re-enable it , as they are changing the whole layout of the system with the no longer needing to check in junk. They heard the feedback and fixed it, its that simple.
They were going to try something different and make a move to a more "Digital" style era instead of what we are doing now which relies on discs for everything (Minus some downloading). But I didn't like the whole not sharing idea because it did limit what could be done with friends and it hurt the idea of a LAN party. So now there should not be a complaint really on the Microsoft side, im still getting both because both consoles look kick *** and have their advantages.
They were going to try something different and make a move to a more "Digital" style era instead of what we are doing now which relies on discs for everything (Minus some downloading). But I didn't like the whole not sharing idea because it did limit what could be done with friends and it hurt the idea of a LAN party. So now there should not be a complaint really on the Microsoft side, im still getting both because both consoles look kick *** and have their advantages.
Burty117
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Except for the Price and the forced inclusion of Kinect and the specs are not particularly good?
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Or maaaaybe their PR department shouldn't have done a shitty job, "Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity; it's called Xbox 360," Seriously...so in essence f*ck you? I think its safe to call that a PR FAIL!
especially when you consider the fact that some xbox360 games even today are no longer supported by microsoft (fable2.com example) or anyone else
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Imagine how things would be if Microsoft hadn't have told everyone about this check-in requirement and let the consumers figure it out if they didn't have Internet. Most of us who keep our Xbox hooked up to the Internet would've never known but those who didn't have it; it would've taken a while for it to spread around thus allowing most of its users to build a liking to the console and not return it since it wouldn't have affected them.
Money talks and they were smart to backtrack after all of the negative publicity. however, what is to STOP them from releasing those same check-in requirements in a patch or update? Those of us who have access to the Web wouldn't notice any difference because the consoles would quietly release packets to their servers and we'd never notice. What's also to stop them from doing this once a person who doesn't have the Net after he or she takes it to a place that DOES have Internet access? What's also to stop them from holding a consortium with Nintendo and Sony and paving a way for all three of them to do this in the future? Do you seriously think that MS would not pitch it to all 3 of them telling them that this would INCREASE revenues? If they all buy into this, our only choices would be to not buy the games or consoles, play old generation consoles/games, or game only on PC.
Since money still talks, they were probably pressured by the game companies to help them increase profits by limiting access with used games and were possibly promised a cut from the royalties. They did it in such a way that they acted like they don't give a crap about the consumers, unlike what they did in 2001 with the initial release of the original XBox. It all boils down to money, MS didn't have to agree to it with the gaming companies because Sony or Nintendo wouldn't have and the gaming companies would be left without a source of revenue. I read once that MS didn't make a profit off of the 360 until year 3 or 4 and it's possible that they wanted to go back into the black quicker with these kickbacks from the gaming co's. It is feasible that MS was hoping that they would have jumped on board. I've put WOW on 5 of my computers with no problem and even streamed it to a few devices from their servers with no limitation.
Money talks and they were smart to backtrack after all of the negative publicity. however, what is to STOP them from releasing those same check-in requirements in a patch or update? Those of us who have access to the Web wouldn't notice any difference because the consoles would quietly release packets to their servers and we'd never notice. What's also to stop them from doing this once a person who doesn't have the Net after he or she takes it to a place that DOES have Internet access? What's also to stop them from holding a consortium with Nintendo and Sony and paving a way for all three of them to do this in the future? Do you seriously think that MS would not pitch it to all 3 of them telling them that this would INCREASE revenues? If they all buy into this, our only choices would be to not buy the games or consoles, play old generation consoles/games, or game only on PC.
Since money still talks, they were probably pressured by the game companies to help them increase profits by limiting access with used games and were possibly promised a cut from the royalties. They did it in such a way that they acted like they don't give a crap about the consumers, unlike what they did in 2001 with the initial release of the original XBox. It all boils down to money, MS didn't have to agree to it with the gaming companies because Sony or Nintendo wouldn't have and the gaming companies would be left without a source of revenue. I read once that MS didn't make a profit off of the 360 until year 3 or 4 and it's possible that they wanted to go back into the black quicker with these kickbacks from the gaming co's. It is feasible that MS was hoping that they would have jumped on board. I've put WOW on 5 of my computers with no problem and even streamed it to a few devices from their servers with no limitation.
Maybe they'll listen about Windows 8 as well? One can hope...Either way it's a happy day, as the consumer wins today!
windows 8 basically takes your high end computer to the next level... the power of a cellphone (without the phone capabilities) with more flaws available for free than a broken mirror (and about as fun too)
windows 8 has a severe security vulnerability that microsoft does not call a security issue (look up in google, The Windows 8 Kill Switch: A Hacker's Dream Come True) its an article from pc magazine that tells you about one of the bigger issues with windows 8 (aside from the many other ones) that aren't as easy to find... I remember pc magazine from before the internet was popular
cliffordcooley
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That sounds awfully familiar to what they want in cell phones as a theft deterrent. Here is my comment on why I thought the cell phone kill switch was a bad idea. I had no idea about Windows 8 kill switch.
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Well, there is zero competition regarding Win OS so keep dreaming your voice will get heard in that direction. But this ... this is just delightful, getting pwned by Sony, they scraped their entire, I don`t know, 5+ years carefully constructed corporate crap policies in less than a month. I hope there`s a lesson here they need to understand : don`t fxck with gamers, so please, go ahead with PS4 anyway.
a lot of people thought windows 8 was good, until they actually used it...
I'm thinking the next OS from microsoft will be good, as it is the pattern since windows 3.1, bring out a crappy OS and then make something truly revolutionizing, so people don't lose total hope in microsoft
windows 3.1 was good for the day
windows 95 was good but not great
windows 98 was good
windows NT was very good
windows ME was crappy all around - an OS that wished it was win2k
windows 2000 professional was very good - one of the best OS in existence as, should the computer mainboard die, you could simply
-install the hard drive in your next computer and it would simply work, it wouls not blue screen, and would find all the drivers it
needed to function properly
windows xp was good, based off windows 2000 (win2k)
windows vista - based on windows ME, was bad - but after all the bug fixes and updates it became good
windows 7 was good (basically windows vista with a face-lift, tweaks, and less bugs)
windows 8 sucks worse than windows ME, turns your powerful computer into an bloated cell phone without the cell network capabilities,
- if only they listened to the computer techs (who install and fix computers) and the customers
Note, look in google, an article called "The Windows 8 Kill Switch: A Hacker's Dream Come True"
gingerbill
Posts: 250 +92
I give them some credit for changing there tune and will forgive and forget to a certain extent . I'll consider buying the Xbox one again . Though I will still probably buy PS4 as its cheaper unless the tech inside the Xbox is better.
Still annoys me they force you to have Kinect.
. I'll consider buying the Xbox one again . Though I will still probably buy PS4 as its cheaper unless the tech inside the Xbox is better. Still annoys me they force you to have Kinect.
I like that Microsoft changed their position. Actually I like their practice of listening to customers, like with WIndows 8.1. In general it's better not to mess up in the first place but hell still better then nothing.
Nobina
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As I remember, everyone hated Windows 8 even before release when they heard there won't be start button, but you could get it back with a workaround until they "fixed" that. And that pattern everyone talks about is true, but I think thats just a coincidence. I doubt Windows 9 will be made for desktops again because it would mean that MS had to listen to consumers once again and consumers will be victorius over the all mighty Microsoft, and that will hurt their pride (gained from the success of Windows 7). They will just keep pushing their mobile OS like nothing happened since mobile devices are outgrowing desktop PCs. Thats my opinon but I hope Im wrong.
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M$ needs to get shafted regardless of what they do now just to teach them that even thinking about shafting the customer will result in this.
Nobina
Posts: 4,502 +5,502
If you think MS listened consumers and changed position with Windows 8.1....I don't even know what to call you...
They made some "improvements" with 8.1 ONLY because they are forced to because of bad sales, same thing with Xbox One. And those improvements are not even improvements. They gave us start button but not the start menu, which means they did absolutely nothing except told us go **** ourselves every time we click on the start button. Windows 7s success made them cocky thinking they can sell their **** and we will pay them because of the Microsoft logo.
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